Posted on 11/10/2010 12:01:05 PM PST by frithguild
Zillow's Stan Humphries said:
The length and depth of the current housing recession is rivaling the Great Depression’s real estate downturn, and, with encouraging signs fading, will easily eclipse it in the coming months.During the Great Depression, home prices fell 25.9 percent in five years. The U.S. housing market is now down around 25 percent from its peak in 2006.
As housing price expert Robert Shiller pointed out in September 2008:
Home price declines are already approaching those in the Great Depression, when they plunged 30% during the 1930s [i.e. over a 10-year period]. With prices already down almost 20%, it's not a stretch to think we might exceed that drop this time around. As I wrote in December 2008:
In the greatest financial crash of all time - the crash of the 1340s in Italy .... real estate prices fell by 50 percent by 1349 in Florence when boom became bust. How does that compare to 2001-2007? The price of Southern California homes is already down 41% [that was before the first-time homebuyer credit, Hamp and other governmental programs temporarily boosted prices]. Southern California hasn't fallen as fast as some other areas, and we're nowhere near the bottom of the market.
Moreover, the bubble was not confined to the U.S. There was a worldwide bubble in real estate.
Indeed, the Economist magazine wrote in 2005 that the worldwide boom in residential real estate prices in this decade was "the biggest bubble in history". The Economist noted that - at that time - the total value of residential property in developed countries rose by more than $30 trillion, to $70 trillion, over the past five years – an increase equal to the combined GDPs of those nations.
Housing bubbles are now bursting in China, France, Spain, Ireland, the United Kingdom, Eastern Europe, and many other regions.
And the bubble in commercial real estate is also bursting world-wide. See this. In addition, the percentage of Americans who owned houses during the 1930s was much lower than today, which means that a larger portion of the public is being hurt from falling home prices today as compared to the Great Depression.
but in my neighborhood . . .
Until the average salary can afford the average house, things are out of whack. Plain and simple.
no seller has an average house- just ask them when you try to buy one
By 2013 things should be quite different for buyers. Conserve cash
I have been looking, but will tell you, sellers are still in dream land.
“Until the average salary can afford the average house, things are out of whack.”
At first glance, that seems like a reasonable standard. But that presupposes that the average salary ~should~ afford to won a home.
Historically, that’s not necessarily the case. People can and do rent.
Fair point - but you see where i am going with that?
Ponzinomics has rules our nation for far too long.
Yeah, definitely.
There’s this one website “patrick.net”, I think, that’s pretty good re the housing bubble. And he was way ahead of the curve on the bust.
His current stance is that the values are still too high - and for basically the same reason you give.
I follow the following:
Peter Schiff
Gerald Celente
Mises.org
Read read read read.
I recently read Econo 101 by Hazlett, Creature from Jekyll Island, etc etc.
Still has to fall about 50 percent to get down to historal ratios plus the overcorrection.
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