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Governor Schwarzenegger: 'No one cares if you smoke a joint'
Three Fingers of Politics ^ | 11/9/2010 | SkinnieMinnie

Posted on 11/09/2010 9:14:02 AM PST by patriotgal71

Last night on the “Tonight Show”, California Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger responded to host Jay Leno’s question about the failure of Proposition 19, a measure on the California ballot to legalize the recreational use of marijuana. Schwarzenegger responded that the measure failed in part, because he had already decriminalized the use of less than 1 oz of pot, and also because, “No one cares if you smoke a joint.”

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TOPICS: Government; Health/Medicine; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: legalize; leno; pot; schwarzenegger
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To: Puppage

RE: “Ummm, I believe the guy in the other car does.”

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LOL — my ultra lib, self described ‘Progressive’ Obama-loving and very annoying
neighbors, are having a hissy fit because the neighbor next to them sits in her convertible at night with a friend or two, smoking pot. The smoker is in her late forties and the complainers are in their late fifties.

It seems the complainers have a teen daughter whose bedroom is near the pot smoking site and they want to shield her from that. Funny??? I thought so!

These same people, known for infringing on the rights and property of others (loud when outdoors, barking dogs that never stop, trampling over others’ lawns, etc.) have ALWAYS indicated they felt people should “live and let live.”

I once pointed out to them that it seemed their stance was really more like “WE do what we want and YOU have to tolerate it.” Needless to say, there are few words between us anymore, thank heavens.


21 posted on 11/09/2010 10:39:14 AM PST by CaliforniaCon
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To: patriotgal71
I bet this dog does, Arnold, you horse's a$$.

Baez was also charged with possession of marijuana.

22 posted on 11/09/2010 11:03:10 AM PST by mancini
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To: Puppage
Even if you completely legalized marijuana, deaths from marijuana-impaired drivers would still be dwarfed by deaths from alcohol-impaired drivers by a factor of at least 20. Studies have been done on the impact of alcohol vs. marijuana in terms of driving impairment, and there's no question that alcohol is far more dangerous to be driving with. That said, the ridiculous notion that legalizing marijuana will lead to a substantial increase in the number of impaired drivers is simply that. Ridiculous. Selfish people who drive under the influence of anything are going to do that regardless of the laws. What your post shows is that you can't debate the legalization of marijuana on the merits. You have to invent these slippery slope arguments that detract from the real issue at hand.

I hear the arguments that we already have enough problems, so why legalize one more drug. That's a silly argument, however, because it implies that there aren't any benefits to legalizing marijuana. For one, legalizing it will provide one less excuse to California law enforcement to run roughshod over the 4th amendment rights of citizens in an attempt to get their hands on an ounce or two of marijuana. It will also reduce the influence of foreign cartels in the California marijuana market. This is a stupid issue because California already has de facto legalization already. Anybody with any sort of ailment (minor lower back pain or clinical depression, for example) can go to a family doctor in California and get a medical marijuana card.

23 posted on 11/09/2010 1:20:58 PM PST by VADoc1980
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To: Zathras

From my recollections of a decade ago (using marijuana in college and having our apartment smell like it all of the time), marijuana smoke is far more pleasant to be around than tobacco smoke. Tobacco smoke has an acrid odor that is quite unappealing to those of us that don’t smoke, and even to this day, living in a college town with its share of potheads, I still find the smell of marijuana easier to tolerate.


24 posted on 11/09/2010 1:23:31 PM PST by VADoc1980
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To: VADoc1980
Even if you completely legalized marijuana, deaths from marijuana-impaired drivers would still be dwarfed by deaths from alcohol-impaired drivers by a factor of at least 20.

I completely agree with you, however, that's whole different argument. A completely valid argument, mind you,but different nonetheless.

25 posted on 11/09/2010 1:30:26 PM PST by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: Puppage
Join me in my quest to ban alcohol nationwide. Over 75,000 deaths nationwide were attributed to alcohol in 2001. How many deaths were attributed to marijuana? Has anyone ever died from marijuana? If you had a choice between your child drinking a beer and driving or smoking a joint and driving, which would you prefer? I know which I'd prefer. I'd rather have them stoned and driving 10 miles under the speed limit instead of drunk and driving 10 over. Obviously no one should drive when impaired, but that hasn't stopped Americans (or residents of any country, for that matter) from doing it.

But back to my main point. We could save at least 75,000 lives a year if we banned alcohol, right? I mean no one would use it if it was illegal, and there's no way that the Mexican cartels who supply us with our marijuana, cocaine and heroin would ever consider supplying us with alcohol, right? Surely they'd respect our new alcohol laws and leave us alone.

26 posted on 11/09/2010 1:36:14 PM PST by VADoc1980
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To: Puppage

Let’s also ban tobacco and fatty foods because they kill more people a day than marijuana kills in a lifetime. I don’t foresee any problems with these bans. People will obey the laws. /s


27 posted on 11/09/2010 1:38:12 PM PST by VADoc1980
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To: VADoc1980
. Over 75,000 deaths nationwide were attributed to alcohol in 2001. How many deaths were attributed to marijuana?

Why are you trying to make this into something that the article/thread isn't about? Perhaps you should start a new thread on this very subject? I am just say'n.

If I had my druthers, I don't want them driving impaired at all. And, for the record, I am 14yrs sober.

28 posted on 11/09/2010 1:39:37 PM PST by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: VADoc1980
I don’t foresee any problems with these bans

Well, I am sure we'll all rest easy knowing you don't have a problem with it.

You're beginning to take on the appearance of a kook.

29 posted on 11/09/2010 1:41:51 PM PST by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: VADoc1980
What your post shows is that you can't debate the legalization of marijuana on the merits. You have to invent these slippery slope arguments that detract from the real issue at hand.

First off, my comment was in response to the gov's statement, nothing more, ok? You are the one who added your little manifesto about the legalization, etc etc.

Second, my wife is a 2 time breast cancer survivor who, as the only way to stop the violent nausea, smoked pot. So don't tell me about inventing ANYTHING, got it? You don't know me, and have absolutely NO IDEA what I am about or what I have been through.

So, take your all knowing attitude and shove it...freak'n kook.

30 posted on 11/09/2010 1:47:16 PM PST by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: Puppage

Your wife’s story is completely irrelevant to this story. Sorry to hear she went through all of that but that has nothing to do with the issue you posted about, which is impaired driving. I responded to that and told you it was a slippery slope argument because everyone knows impaired driving occurs in California even now, with marijuana decriminalized yet not legalized. The appeal to pity fallacy has no place here. I wasn’t debating the issue of medical marijuana which is the issue your emotional post deals with.


31 posted on 11/09/2010 1:50:57 PM PST by VADoc1980
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To: Puppage

I mentioned the off-topic issue because you mentioned one as well. Marijuana usage itself is a victimless crime. You’re conflating it with impaired driving which in itself is already a crime in California and will likely always remain a crime. Even if marijuana is legalized, it will still be illegal to drive under the influence. Do I think that everyone will obey the law? No. But people don’t obey it now, so it’s not really relevant to the issue of marijuana legalization/criminalization, which is what this thread is about.


32 posted on 11/09/2010 1:53:00 PM PST by VADoc1980
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