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To: r9etb; little jeremiah; wagglebee
... who happen to be associated an organization that promotes a particular political and religious/moral point of view, and this report just happens to support that point of view.

Fine. But the scientific method is the last word. FRC is not just a lobbying org; they are serious about scholarship and are the research arm to back up the religious/moral claims of the parent organization with secular fact-finding (which exists in abundance on this topic, and is routinely denied by the left).

You seem to believe that if a conservative organization puts out the results of their research in replicable studies, it is the moral equivalent of a liberal lobbying organization putting out its attitudinal talking points based on flimsy or non-existent evidence.

The heart of conservatism is taking a cautious and incremental view of change, and changing through the system based on facts and what will work in the long term. The heart of leftist-liberalism is immediate, radical change by any means, excusing oneself from doing the homework of digging out the facts, misrepresenting or suppressing facts to make an emotional or political point, making "progress" for its own sake while dismissing the possible unintended consequences, blaming ill-effects of too-rapid change on conservatives, flouting the law and redefining words.

• The Kinsey work widely cited as a defense of homosexuality has been shown to be corrupt data and flagrant child abuse.

• The de-listing of homosexuality from the APA's list of disorders was the result of political pressure, not science; and has been refuted by one of its former champions, who has now been silenced.

• The CDC routinely publishes reliable statistics on the higher risk and greater danger of poor mental and physical health and early death associated with homosexual behavior; all ignored by the MSM and the NEA in their efforts to foist an unsupportable viewpoint on the public.

Yet you object to the publishing of a review of the negative outcomes of homosexual behavior and a discussion of the ways in which it truly cannot be called a "civil right", when young people are being deluded and risking their futures because of the anti-family agenda of the left? Did you even read the essay?

49 posted on 11/02/2010 1:07:59 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (Government does nothing as economically as the private sector. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: Albion Wilde
Fine. But the scientific method is the last word.

But that's exactly the problem -- they did not actually use the scientific method to arrive at their conclusion.

They cited various studies about the origins of homosexuality, and we can assume that those peer-reviewed results were in fact in accordance with the scientific method.

HOWEVER.... the authors then go on to state that the underlying homosexual attraction is "involuntary" (their word). So much for the studies they had just cited. The failure of studies to determine the exact origins of the attraction does not affect the authors' explicit acknowledgement that homosexuality does in fact begin with an involuntary attraction.

(Indeed, they appear to have essentially conceded the underlying argument made by homosexual activists, that they can't help how they are.)

And then, departing from science, they claim that it's not the involuntary attraction that's important, but rather the choice to act on it.

And beyond that, they shift the discussion to one of being "held responsible for" the choice to act on the involuntary attraction.

By this point the authors have left the realm of science very far behind.

Yet you object to the publishing of a review of the negative outcomes of homosexual behavior and a discussion of the ways in which it truly cannot be called a "civil right",

No, what I specifically objected to, was your false claim that this article is somehow "scientific." It is not.

50 posted on 11/02/2010 1:58:31 PM PDT by r9etb
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