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Homosexuality Is Not a Civil Right
Family Research Council ^ | Peter S3prigg

Posted on 10/29/2010 4:58:55 PM PDT by Conservative Coulter Fan

Early in 2004, San Francisco mayor Gavin Newsom began giving out marriage licenses—illegally—to same-sex couples. One of the homosexuals who traveled to San Francisco in search of a marriage license explained his rationale succinctly: “I am tired of sitting at the back of the bus.”1

The allusion, of course, was to the famous story of Rosa Parks. Parks is the African-American woman who, one day in 1955, boarded a racially segregated city bus in Montgomery, Alabama, sat down near the front, and refused the driver’s order to “move to the back of the bus.” Parks’ act of civil disobedience violated one of the “Jim Crow” laws that enforced racial segregation in various public services and accommodations in some states.

Parks’ arrest for her courageous defiance sparked the Montgomery bus boycott, led by a young minister named Martin Luther King, Jr., which is generally viewed as the beginning of the great civil rights movement of the 1950s and 1960s. It culminated legislatively in the passage of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, banning racial discrimination in employment, housing, and public accommodations.

The stories of Rosa Parks and Martin Luther King, Jr. have become an inspiring part of American history. It’s not surprising that homosexual activists have tried to hitch their caboose to the “civil rights” train. They do this in the context of efforts to change the definition of marriage in order to allow same-sex “marriages” (by comparing same-sex “marriage” to interracial marriage) and efforts to pass “hate crime” laws (which stigmatize opposition to homosexual behavior as a form of “hate” comparable to racism). The arguments in this essay are relevant to those debates, but focus particularly on laws that would ban employment “discrimination” on the basis of “sexual orientation” (such as the federal Employment Non-Discrimination Act, which is regularly introduced each Congress).

This essay is not a legal treatise, but an exploration of the philosophical justification for including various characteristics as categories of protection under historic civil rights laws—and why “sexual orientation” simply does not compare with them.

Defining Terms: What Are “Civil Rights,” Anyway?


The dictionary defines civil rights as “rights belonging to a person by virtue of his status as a citizen or as a member of civil society.”2 The Bill of Rights in the United States Constitution guarantees every American the right to freedom of religion, speech, and the press, as well as “due process of law,” and gives protections against unreasonable search and seizure, “double jeopardy” (being tried twice for the same crime), and self-incrimination.

These are true “civil” rights, in that they belong to a person (every person) “as a citizen or as a member of civil society.” But please note well—homosexuals have never been denied any of these rights, nor is anyone proposing to deny such rights to homosexuals in the future.

When homosexual activists talk about their “civil rights,” they are not talking about their constitutional rights, which have never been systematically denied to them as a class (unlike the historical experience of black Americans). Instead, they are talking about “civil rights” in the sense that the term was used in the Civil Rights Act of 1964, which laid down five protected categories in which it was illegal for an employer or banker or hotelier, and others, to practice discrimination (“race, color, religion, sex, or national origin”). Many states now have similar laws as well. The true “constitutional” rights cited above place a restriction on the actions of governments in carrying out the law. And when a constitutional right is extended to a group previously deprived of it, no one else suffers any reduction in their rights as a result. For example, when the right to vote was extended to blacks and then to women, this did nothing to limit the right of whites or of men to vote.

Civil rights laws that bar employment discrimination, however, place a restriction upon the action of private entities (such as corporations) in carrying out their private business. This is why Congress rested its authority to pass the Civil Rights Act not on the Constitution’s guarantee of the “equal protection of the laws,”3 but on its power to regulate interstate commerce.4 When such a “right” is extended (for the individual to be free from “discrimination” in employment), it infringes upon what would otherwise be the customary right of the employer to determine the qualifications for employment. The extension of historic constitutional rights is a “win-win” situation, but the extension of laws against employment discrimination is more of a “zero-sum” game—when one (such as the employment applicant) wins more protection, another (the employer) actually loses a corresponding measure of freedom. It is because of this that lawmakers should be exceedingly cautious, rather than generous, about expanding the categories of protection against private employment discrimination.

Because of our national shame at the historic legacy of racial discrimination against blacks, many people have come to think of “discrimination” as inherently evil. However, the basic meaning of “discriminate” is simply “to make a distinction.”5 To compare and evaluate candidates based on their education, experience, intelligence, and competence is inherently “discrimination.” The question, therefore, is not whether “discrimination” will take place—it can, it will and it must. The question for public policy is: which forms of “discrimination” are so profoundly offensive to the national conscience that they justify government action that interferes with the rights of employers and other private entities and gives special protections to certain classes of people?

In the Civil Rights Act of 1964, Congress answered that question by including only five categories of protection. As noted above, those categories were: “race, color, religion, sex, or national origin.”6 For instance, a banker could deny an applicant a loan because the applicant was not credit-worthy, but not because he or she was Jewish or black. What do these protected categories have in common?

While there is no definitive legal answer, the most logical answer would seem to be that the case for granting legal protection against “discrimination” is strongest when based on a personal characteristic that is:



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To: little jeremiah

A blog is a “regular website,” too. The question is, how does it qualify as a news source? It is an opinionated, agenda-driven site no different than DU or Rush Limbaugh.


21 posted on 10/30/2010 12:50:07 AM PDT by Misterioso (Burning a Koran is a victimless crime.)
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To: little jeremiah

PS. Notice where this thread currently resides.


22 posted on 10/30/2010 12:51:39 AM PDT by Misterioso (Burning a Koran is a victimless crime.)
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To: Misterioso

Yeah, just like DU.

Hmm, is that where you usually hang out?


23 posted on 10/30/2010 5:03:08 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.CSLewis)
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To: little jeremiah

Never been there but it is frequently referenced on FR, so I get the gist of it.


24 posted on 10/30/2010 6:02:35 AM PDT by Misterioso (Burning a Koran is a victimless crime.)
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To: Conservative Coulter Fan

My specific interest in this subject originates with taking a 500 level statistics course for my MBA at the University of Oregon during 1973 and 1974 after serving in the Navy. Because of that course, I could join in the lament over this woefully unsupported decision expressed by a Psychology professor, who published text books including the subject of homosexuality. I could also join his lament, because of training in the classic scientific method as part of my undergraduate Chemistry major. Therefore I can trust this link, because it confirms the information he shared with me.

Action of APA to remove homosexuality from list of disorders DSM
Link: http://conservativecolloquium.wordpress.com/2007/10/01/homosexual-activists-intimidate-american-psychiatric-association-into-removing-homosexuality-from-list-of-disorders/


25 posted on 10/30/2010 9:17:17 AM PDT by Retain Mike
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To: Misterioso

If you think the bias at DU is equivalent to the POV of the Family Research Council, you have something really wrong with you.

I guess you don’t think there is such as thing as objective reality or truth. Or maybe you’re a libertarian.


26 posted on 10/30/2010 2:45:59 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.CSLewis)
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To: Conservative Coulter Fan

The key to defeating the homosexual agenda is to have former homosexuals healed through finding religion speak out against their former lifestyles. Something they are usually happy to do.


27 posted on 10/30/2010 2:50:04 PM PDT by Vision ("Did I not say to you that if you would believe, you would see the glory of God?" John 11:40)
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To: Conservative Coulter Fan; 185JHP; AFA-Michigan; Abathar; Agitate; Albion Wilde; AliVeritas; ...
Homosexual Agenda Ping

Freepmail wagglebee to subscribe or unsubscribe from the homosexual agenda ping list.

Be sure to click the FreeRepublic homosexual agenda keyword search link for a list of all related articles. We don't ping you to all related articles so be sure to click the previous link to see the latest articles.

Add keywords homosexual agenda to flag FR articles to this ping list.

This is an excellent compendium of reasons - covers the entire spectrum from disease, to violence proneness, to child molestation, to drug use, to mental illness, to the "born that way" lie, to the Constitution - why homosexuality is not a civil rights issues whatsoever.

Anyone who has little time to read all the pinged out articles, please read and save or bookmark this one. It has all the ammunition you need to discuss with others. Homosexuals in the military is a big issue right now since the Evil Dems are trying to shove it through quickly. Yesterday on a thread about homosexuals in the military (a faux survey claimed most mil members don't mind serving with homosexuals supposedly) really brought out the trolls and pro-homosexual so-called conservatives.

Homosexuals in the military serves two purposes for the left. One, advances immorality and destruction of the natural family, thus requiring bigger and bigger government. Second, causes great harm to the military, which they loathe.

Conservatives must fight the "gay" agenda, or they are not conservative. It does and will affect everyone. Very adversely. Anyone who says "I don't care, gays don't bother me" or "what gay agenda?" is lying and is a supporter of the nazi-esque homosexual agenda. Either that or a liberaltarian who smokes too much dope to think straight and lives in a fantasy world.

28 posted on 10/30/2010 3:13:10 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.CSLewis)
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To: Vision

Of course the MSM refuses to ever touch the fact that there are any former homosexuals. Even ones who healed without religion need to be heard. They all need to be heard.

A few years ago a large number of former homosexuals - I think number one or two thousand at least (I wish I could remember) wanted to buy a full page ad in the NYT listing their names, and info on organizations that help homosexuals change. Of course the NYT refused their ad.


29 posted on 10/30/2010 3:39:30 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.CSLewis)
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To: little jeremiah

Yawn.


30 posted on 10/30/2010 4:49:15 PM PDT by Misterioso (Burning a Koran is a victimless crime.)
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To: Misterioso

ROTFLOL!

Oh yes, the blase, cynical, know it all, cool guy who can’t discuss morality or truth since it is so borrring, yet has to post a “yawn”.

snicker...


31 posted on 10/30/2010 4:57:42 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.CSLewis)
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To: Conservative Coulter Fan

Could you get the mods to fix the typos in the author’s name? I’m sure his last name isn’t really Peter S3prigg!


32 posted on 10/30/2010 4:59:52 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.CSLewis)
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To: Misterioso; little jeremiah
It is an opinionated, agenda-driven site no different than DU or Rush Limbaugh.

You have no idea who they are, do you.

33 posted on 10/30/2010 5:12:22 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: DJ MacWoW

My original post had to do with the forum it was posted to. Nothing else. Everybody relax.


34 posted on 10/30/2010 6:37:55 PM PDT by Misterioso (Burning a Koran is a victimless crime.)
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To: Misterioso

These people are not bloggers. And it’s not a link to a blog that was posted. I’ll ask again, do you even know who they are?


35 posted on 10/30/2010 6:40:40 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: DJ MacWoW

What difference does it make? It is not a news source.


36 posted on 10/30/2010 8:46:50 PM PDT by Misterioso (Burning a Koran is a victimless crime.)
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To: Conservative Coulter Fan

Should add pedophilia to the same list and out the rest of the homosexual agenda—seeking control of other peoples’ kids is a huge part and male homos seeking sex with boys is not one of their rights.


37 posted on 11/01/2010 9:27:09 AM PDT by Neoliberalnot ((Read "The Grey Book" for an alternative to corruption in DC))
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To: Misterioso; little jeremiah
The question is, how does it qualify as a news source? It is an opinionated, agenda-driven site no different than DU or Rush Limbaugh.

It is actually a scholarly research organization, with greatly respected family scholars in residence, such as Peter Sprigg and Patrick Fagan. The results of FRC's studies are valid material on which to report, just as the MSM trumpets its usually flimsy, 100-person "studies" in support of their leftist agenda. The scientific method demands that other serious scholars who read about studies then not only examine the criteria for a study, but also seek to replicate the findings with double-blind experiments.

This particular essay is a digest of a large amount of material. Based on the findings of many other studies, the author has drawn relevant conclusions to further the discussion.

38 posted on 11/01/2010 12:43:00 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (Government does nothing as economically as the private sector. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: Albion Wilde

Thank you! You said it much better than I could have.


39 posted on 11/01/2010 2:15:36 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.CSLewis)
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To: Albion Wilde
It is actually a scholarly research organization, with greatly respected family scholars in residence, such as Peter Sprigg and Patrick Fagan.

... who happen to be associated an organization that promotes a particular political and religious/moral point of view, and this report just happens to support that point of view.

Sorry, but that's just the truth. It's not enough simply to claim "scientific method" when an interest group conducts and releases a study that supports its agenda. The possibility of bias and misapplication of data (whether inadvertent or on purpose) cannot be assumed away, just because we like what the report has to say.

40 posted on 11/01/2010 3:20:40 PM PDT by r9etb
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