Prop 19: Amsterdam Psychiatrist Blasts US Drug Czars for Distortions, Fear-Mongering

MND ^ | Friday, September 3, 2010 | Dr. Frederik Polak

[philman_36]

From the growers up in Humbolt county to the medical dispensaries in Oakland, there is a lot of “I've got mine” opposition to 19.
I would imagine so. They're just as vulnerable to individuals having the ability to grow their own as Soros.
Whereas this issue should be about liberty and freedom it's turning out to be all about money.

[Lazamataz]

Even a broken clock is right twoce a day.

Sometimes it's not even right wonce.

[headsonpikes]

The sociopaths and their courtiers each want to dip their beaks, but the gangsters with their off-shore accounts are higher on the food chain than the lawyers defending street-level riffraff.

The Big Money is never touched and its Possessors are never arraigned - the bankers need it and them too much.

This money has corrupted ALL levels of government, including Congress and the Judiciary. The whorish trial lawyers simply know which side of their bread is buttered, and by whom.

[philman_36]

Let me clarify...What, in your opinion, is his agenda regarding marijuana legalization?

[cripplecreek]

What I saw was you trying to manipulate the argument away from selling out to Soros and the tides foundation with some idiotic attempt to psychoanylize him.

Not hearing much about the pot pickers union either.

[philman_36]

Sometimes it's not even right wonce.

Nice reply.
I saw it but didn't want to get hit with the "spelling police" label again.

[KDD]

A global government. Parity in wages and poverty throughout the world. Pulling the poor of the world up on the backs of the American middle class while destroying that same middle class in the process. He supposes himself to be a social engineer. Therefore he is probably arrogant as many with his amount of wealth are.

He would say that it is not his fault that everyone seems to have a price.

[philman_36]

What I saw was you trying to manipulate the argument away from selling out to Soros and the tides foundation with some idiotic attempt to psychoanylize him.
Another lame comment. Why do you even bother? You bring nothing to the discussion but derision and condescension!
You're cogent on other issues and knee jerk on this one. What's up with that?

[jiggyboy]

Fourth, “public nuisance problems” with the coffee shops are minimal

Uh huh. If you find yourself in a Carl's Jr / Jack in the Box / Wendy's in the early afternoon or late at night, you might be lucky enough to get a one-lesson certification course in how to identify college students stoned out of their minds: once you hear somebody at a five or six-person group huh-huh-huh-ing the same stupid laugh, at exactly the same volume, length, and expression of hilarity, at absolutely everything said at the table, that's your tip-off. It can go on for an hour. "I gotta get going soon, I still have Calc homework to get done for tomorrow." "Huh-huh-huh!" "So you guys going home for the weekend?" "Huh-huh-huh!" Oh yeah, I'm looking forward to that becoming 10x more common if 19 passes.

[philman_36]

He supposes himself to be a social engineer.
And too egotistic to recognize that he's nothing more than a snake oil salesman.

[Thermalseeker]

The sociopaths and their courtiers each want to dip their beaks, but the gangsters with their off-shore accounts are higher on the food chain than the lawyers defending street-level riffraff.

True, but the prohibition creates a steady stream of "clientele" for the trial lawyers and, as such, they don't kick up a fuss. It's as bad or worse than the ambulance chasers. Low level Judiciary benefits handsomely, too. An old high school friend of mine is a Clerk in Superior Court down in Georgia. She sees it all the time. Judges who demand drug fines be paid in cash. If you don't heed the demand it's off to the hoosegow with you.

The Big Money is never touched and its Possessors are never arraigned - the bankers need it and them too much.

Bingo. Drug money made the banks in the Cayman Islands.

This money has corrupted ALL levels of government, including Congress and the Judiciary. The whorish trial lawyers simply know which side of their bread is buttered, and by whom.

'Dat there bread be drippin' with butter, too......

[Daveinyork]

“Even a broken clock is right twoce a day.
Sometimes it’s not even right wonce. “

broken clock is always right twice a day.

[philman_36]

"I gotta get going soon, I still have Calc homework to get done for tomorrow."

Calculus and pot smokers! So much for the idiot stereotype!

[KDD]

And too egotistic to recognize that he's nothing more than a snake oil salesman.

In a nutshell

But my original point stands. Prop.19 is not funded by him.

[Thermalseeker]

What, in your opinion, is his agenda?

IMHO, power and control. Both more addictive than an opiate or nicotine. Power and control are the engine of Socialism....

[philman_36]

But my original point stands. Prop.19 is not funded by him.
I agree that he hasn't funded it and haven't contended otherwise. My responses have been as to why he didn't support/fund it. He has a moneyed interest in marijuana legalization that has nothing to do with liberty, freedom or Constitutional limitations on government.

My apologies for having drifted afield of the article.

[philman_36]

Power and control are the engine of Socialism....
I always thought the engine of Socialism was oppression and subjugation.

[Lazamataz]

broken clock is always right twice a day.

Untrue.

Broken DIGITAL clocks are never right.

[Daveinyork]

“Broken DIGITAL clocks are never right. “

You young high tech whippersnappers have got to quit harrassing we old timers who are tech challenged.

[philman_36]

In retrospect...we agree.
Power = oppression
control = subjugation