Posted on 10/18/2010 9:24:28 AM PDT by flowerplough
Emily Y. posted earlier today about an incident that happened at Yale on Wednesday night: A group of members and pledges of the frat Delta Kappa Epsilon were heard around campus yelling chants like, "My name is Jack, I'm a necrophiliac, I f*** dead women, and fill them with my semen." Emily asked, "Where are the adults here? Why hasn't the administration already taken action?" and she called for DKE's suspension.
These men should be punished, but banning DKE won't solve the problem. The problem is pandemic across many groups on campus. The chant is actually a typical rally cry for another frat and for the men's rugby team. These events aren't isolated. Yale needs cultural change, and banning a fraternity without much more discussion won't help.
In the past, Yale has set a precedent for trying to cover up the real issues at hand by attempting to settle issues quickly and quietly, without making a fuss. Three years ago, men in Zeta Psi stood in front of the Yale Women's Center and posed for photographs with a sign that said "We Love Yale Sluts." When Yale didn't react, the Women's Center threatened to sue the frat. Yale discouraged them from suing and the frat went by unpunished.
At the beginning of last year, a group of upperclassmen sent around an e-mail that soon found its way into the inboxes of most Yale students. It was called a "Pre-Season Scouting Report," and it ranked freshmen girls' attractiveness based on how many beers it would take to have sex with them. Yale did nothing other than issue a statement saying this was not OK.
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sounds about normal for a group of 18-21 year olds....
Yes, and the Dekes *do* have something of a reputation for this sort of stuff.
George W. Bush was a DKE at Yale.
“Every fall, the trees are filled with underwear. Every Spring, the toilets......explode.”
“If the name fits, act it out!
And they did.
when a group of 40-somethings from Bank Of America, or John Deere start posing for nude pics in front their office building then we start to question, but these are college students. I say, more power to them....
Yes, I long for those innocent days when we sang, “Chi O...Chi O...it’s off to bed we go...”
The stereotype of modern college campus life consist of multiple sexual “hook ups” by students with no consequences or commitment.
So tell me why do people who act like “sluts” get upset when they regarded and treated like “sluts”?
I should have elaborated and added that GWB was PRESIDENT of the DKE’s at Yale.
“Who dumped a truckload of ‘Fizzies’ into the swim meet? Who delivered the medical school cadavers to the Alumni Luncheon?”
OMG — that is a TERRIBLE thing to sing. You should be ashamed of yourselves.
Later that same year Don Imus (whose language is often on the same level) was fired for referring to one of the women's teams as “Nappy headed hos”.
I guess the student bodies these days think one should be fired for criticizing their hair styles.
I would like to see a return to polite society, but to get there the student body is going to have to start by admitting that the problem is not one fraternity, but the entire student body. And it is not just the males either.
Uh, this is a very flawed approach if they want to actually appeal to live women and find some who will date them.
As a former rugger, trust me when I tell you that the cheer mentioned is mild compared to some of the chants/cheers/ rituals that go on after rugby matches.
"But you can't hold a whole fraternity responsible for the behavior of a few, sick twisted individuals. For if you do, then shouldn't we blame the whole fraternity system? And if the whole fraternity system is guilty, then isn't this an indictment of our educational institutions in general? I put it to you, Greg - isn't this an indictment of our entire American society? Well, you can do whatever you want to us, but we're not going to sit here and listen to you badmouth the United States of America. Gentlemen!"
I am SO GLAD I am a Sigma Chi!
We are so much above those petty, childish chants and insults against these innocent young women.
Maybe you and I should find a quiet spot where we can go to discuss this further!
you’re pre law? I thought you were pre med...
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