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Insurance For Pre-Existing Conditions Expensive Under ObamaCare
Stop the ACLU ^ | October 3, 2010 | William Teach

Posted on 10/03/2010 8:15:23 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Who would have thought it?

It’s a centerpiece of President Barack Obama’s health care remake, a lifeline available right now to vulnerable people whose medical problems have made them uninsurable.

But the Pre-Existing Condition Insurance Plan started this summer isn’t living up to expectations. Enrollment lags in many parts of the country. People who could benefit may not be able to afford the premiums. Some state officials who run their own “high-risk pools” have pointed out potential problems.

“The federal risk pool has definitely provided critical access, in some cases lifesaving access, to health insurance,” said Amie Goldman, chair of a national association of state high-risk insurance pools. “That said, enrollment so far is lower than we would have expected.” Goldman runs the Wisconsin state pool, as well as the federal plan in her state.

Providing access is easy. Costs, on the other hand

Premiums may be out of reach. In many states, people in their 40s and 50s face monthly premiums ranging from $400 to $600 and higher. “I think there’s some sticker shock going on,” said Sabrina Corlette, a Georgetown University research professor. “People who may be eligible are finding out that even if they can get the insurance, the price is too high.” Pennsylvania, which set a premium of $283 for all ages, has had no problem getting applicants.

One of the problems is that the number of people enrolling in the plans is much lower than expected. Seemingly because the plans are, in fact expensive, even with the $5 billion ObamaCare pours into the coverage. A second problem is that the requirements to be able to enroll are difficult. Furthermore

In states where the federal government runs the program directly, the insurance plan doesn’t provide coverage for prescription drugs until people have met a $2,500 annual deductible.

This is what happens when people who are not professionals create a massive, unwieldy law that they haven’t even read. The law of unintended consequences. Surely, much of the outsourced ObamaCare was created exactly to damage the private insurance industry, allowing Democrats to say “see? Evil” and increase their involvement in the health insurance industry. Consider

The first baby steps of the nation’s health care overhaul have taken effect. That means most insurance plans will change, at least slightly, when renewed.

Workers for years have been able to set aside tax-free dollars into an account that could be used within the year to pay for everything from insurance deductibles and eye surgery to Advil and allergy pills. But starting in 2011, the accounts will no longer pay for over-the-counter medicines unless a doctor writes a prescription for it. And by 2013, contributions to the accounts will be limited to $2,500.

The federally mandated changes to health savings accounts can cause big problems. Consider that employees who have family plans often have a deductible of $2,100 to $2,500 for an HSA. HSAs usually allow the money to roll over from year to year, and people keep putting money into the accounts, building them over time. That will end.

The new requirements prescribed by the health care law won’t come without a price. The law’s provisions will add a bump of 1 percent to 2 percent to the cost of insurance coverage for most large employers, according to Hewitt Associates, a consulting firm that is a respected source on employee benefit costs. If the provisions add 1 to 2 percent for large companies, Lord knows what it will do to small businesses and individuals. Then we get to the McDonald’s scenario, where companies have large numbers of employees, many part time, and turn over quickly

Health insurance costs may rise as much as 500 percent for restaurants with more than 50 employees if all employees participate in a company-sponsored plan, said Todd Gordon, president of insurance broker The Benefits Group Inc.

The health care costs for franchises may rise from 1 percent of each store’s revenue to as much as 5 percent if they hire a significant number of full-time employees, said Jordan Krolick, president of restaurant consulting firm Tound & Drowth LLC.

So, what do they do? They limit the number of employees they have to avoid the government penalties, and dump their insurance offerings, which also increases unemployment, unless HHS provides a waiver. If they are smart, they will. If the law allows it.

But, of course, these companies are all evil for actually wanting to make a profit. I challenge all liberal owners of business to stop making profits, putting every cent into paying higher wages and awesome health insurance. Basically, turn your company, the one you use to feed and water your family, the one that allows you to live well, take vacations, and plan for retirement, into a non-profit. Stop going out to eat, stop taking vacations, and stop living well. Live the life you say every other company should live.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Health/Medicine; Politics
KEYWORDS: congress; democrats; obama; obamacare
Can this be for real?
1 posted on 10/03/2010 8:15:27 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Obama DeathCare is a lie. Start to finish. The money that is now being stolen from the American public will be used to give free healthcare to voting blocks that Obama needs for power. It is a horror story beyond belief — because people are going to die, that would have lived, to fund his radical leftist agenda.

It needs to be repealed — vote out the bums in November then finalize it in 2012. There will be much damage to be repaired.


2 posted on 10/03/2010 8:24:24 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Where are all those Cadillac insurance plans Obama promised us?


3 posted on 10/03/2010 10:31:52 PM PDT by Slyfox
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Well, he only said that you couldn’t be denied insurance because of pre-existing conditions. He never said you’d be able to AFFORD it.


4 posted on 10/03/2010 11:39:21 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: Slyfox

Unions get the Cadillac insurance. The “little people” who make up 90% of the workforce get the shaft.


5 posted on 10/03/2010 11:51:25 PM PDT by boop ("Let's just say they'll be satisfied with LESS"... Ming the Merciless)
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To: SuziQ

These greedy insurance companies are only in it for the money, and now the truth comes out when they want to charge such high rates for the people that really need it. Or - they will just quit offering insurance to certain segments.

Sounds like a problem that only government health care can provide.

But that will be step 4 or 4 in the process.

First will be what is starting to take effect now.
Next will be government insurance.
And then when we find out how greedy the hospitals are,
It will be gov’t. run hospitals.

Just because they are radicals doesn’t mean they are trying to change it all over-night. In order to work it has to be by increments.

And by the time folks realize they have to wait a year for a hearing TEST (like in some counties in England), it will be too late.


6 posted on 10/04/2010 12:03:23 AM PDT by 21twelve ( You can go from boom to bust, from dreams to a bowl of dust ... another lost generation.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Imagine that you wake up in the night and find your uninsured $100,000 house is on fire. You always meant to insure it, but didn’t.

After escaping from the flames, you call your auto insurance company and it is forced to insure the burning building. How much do you think the premium would be?

If you pick $100,000, you’d be wrong. The company would have to tack on something for administrative expenses. Other than that, it would be pretty simple.

The difference between this scenario and Health insurance is that the burning house can’t exceed the maximum value whereas a human with specific health problems may have unlimited health care costs over many years that cannot be quantitatively estimated.

Universal health care from the cradle to the grave can be done—for an unknown price—if you tax everyone from the cradle to the grave.

The only way to do it is to tax everyone for the total gazillions that it costs each year plus the addition of administrative costs. But it is NOT insurance in the traditional sense where companies try to keep cost down and profits up by assessing risks (insurability) before taking on the client.

We are about to start “insuring” burning buildings.


7 posted on 10/04/2010 12:07:37 AM PDT by wildbill (You're just jealous because the Voices talk only to me.)
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To: wildbill

Have fun with that:
http://www.LivingInThePhilippines.com


8 posted on 10/04/2010 12:11:16 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Palin/Bolton 2012)
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To: 21twelve
Just because they are radicals doesn’t mean they are trying to change it all over-night. In order to work it has to be by increments.

That is an important lesson that many conservatives have yet to learn. Some want changes immediately, and reject candidates who want to take a slower approach. The reason we're in a mess now is because liberals have been patiently waiting for the last 40 years to get their agenda in place. They worked their way into agencies and departments, making small, seemingly insignificant changes along the way. The ones that most people have noticed have been the large decisions made by the Supremes; Roe v Wade, Kelo, etc. but the more insidious have been the ones made at state and federal agencies, colleges, Depts. of Education, etc.

We conservatives have to come to grips with the fact that changes CAN'T be made overnight, or otherwise folks can get scared, and then vote those who wanted to make those big changes out of office. Liberals made changes so slowly that folks just accepted each small one, and didn't see what was coming when all the changes were in place. They returned the libs back to office in each election, to continue that drip, drip, drip. NOW they're seeing the results, with Obama's forcing of his Health Care Plan, and they're finally realizing what's been done. I believe that's why the Tea Party Message has made such inroads with the voters this year.

9 posted on 10/04/2010 9:58:09 AM PDT by SuziQ
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