There ya go ... missed that one. Thank you very much. The video muffles the sounds, which omits all that transpired, according to this transcript
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REP. CHAKA FATTAH, (D) Pennsylvania: This is the one we have all been waiting for. Mr. President, the certificate of the electoral vote of the state of Florida seems to be regular in form and authentic, and it appears therefrom that George W. Bush of the state of Texas received 25 votes for President, and Dick Cheney of the state of Wyoming received 25 votes for Vice President.
VICE PRESIDENT AL GORE: Is there an objection?
KWAME HOLMAN: There was, from Florida Congressman Alcyee Hastings.
VICE PRESIDENT AL GORE: Is the gentleman’s objection in writing, and signed by a member of the House of Representatives and by a Senator?
REP. ALCEE HASTINGS, (D) Florida: Mr. President— and I take great pride in calling you that— I must object because of the overwhelming evidence of official misconduct, deliberate fraud, and an attempt to suppress voter turnout.
VICE PRESIDENT AL GORE: (pounding gavel) The chair must remind members that under section 18, title iii, United States code, no debate is allowed in the joint session.
REP. ALCEE HASTINGS: Thank you, Mr. President. To answer your question, Mr. President, the objection is in writing, signed by a number of members of the House of Representatives, but not by a member of the Senate. Thank you, Mr. President.
KWAME HOLMAN: But that didn’t stop 13 other Democrats, primarily members of the Congressional Black Caucus, from stating similar objections.
VICE PRESIDENT AL GORE: Is the point of order in writing, and signed by a member of the House of Representatives and a Senator?
REP. CORRINE BROWN, (D) Florida: Mr. President, it is in writing and signed by several House colleagues on behalf of— and myself— the 27,000 voters of Duval County, of which 16,000 of them are African Americans that were disenfranchised in this last election.
VICE PRESIDENT AL GORE: The gentlewoman will suspend.
KWAME HOLMAN: The parade of objections lasted 20 minutes.
REP. MAXINE WATERS, (D) California: Mr. Vice President, I rise to object to the fraudulent 25 Florida electoral votes.
VICE PRESIDENT AL GORE: Is the objection in writing, and signed by a member of the House and a Senator?
REP. MAXINE WATERS: The objection is in writing, and I do not care that it is not signed by a member of the Senate. (Applause)
VICE PRESIDENT AL GORE: The chair will advise that the rules do care, and the signature of a Senator … (Laughter and applause)
KWAME HOLMAN: Through it all, the Vice President tried to remain businesslike, but he couldn’t ignore the irony of the situation in which he found himself.
REP. JESSE JACKSON, JR., (D) Illinois: And it is a sad day in America, Mr. President, when we cannot find a Senator to sign these objections. New Democratic Senators will not sign the objection, Mr. President. I object.
VICE PRESIDENT AL GORE: The gentleman will suspend. The chair thanks the gentleman from Illinois, but — hey — on the basis previously stated, the objection is not in order.
KWAME HOLMAN: Finally, Congressman Hastings stood one last time to inform the Vice President his supporters had done all they could.
VICE PRESIDENT AL GORE: (Laughs) The chair thanks the gentleman from Florida. (Laughter)
KWAME HOLMAN: With that, members of the Congressional Black Caucus quietly left the chamber. The vote tallying continued, and George W. Bush was certified as the President-elect without further interruption.
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/congress/jan-june01/certified_01-08.html
And illustrates my point EXACTLY!!! Gore asked if there were objections, keeping with the Constitutional rules! Tragically, and I’ll never understand why, VP Cheney did not ask. I still respect him so much, but .. golllly.
Isn't that something! Gore did it "by the book" (actually, by the Constitution). Cheney DID NOT. Why indeed?
Maybe the bigger question is why Pelosi didn’t force him to ask the question.
As long as the question wasn’t asked, Obama could not be lawfully certified as the electoral winner. To this day he has not been lawfully certified.
Is Kerchner’s case the one that has been merely suspended? Is SCOTUS able to take it up if and when they so desire?
I’m seriously wondering if SCOTUS is planning on taking it up as soon as the dems who perpetrated this fraud are no longer the majority party in Congress. Cheney’s failure (refusal?) to ask the question leaves the legality of the whole last stinkin’ almost 2 years in great doubt.
I can’t help but think that Pelosi didn’t push the issue because she knew there would be objections and didn’t dare try to force Cheney to ask the legally-required question.
Thank you so much for that transcript. That totally blows out of the water the typical Obot arguments here, that 1) the objections had to be submitted ahead of time, and 2) the question wasn’t asked because there were no objections that met the requirement of being written and signed by a House and Senate member.
The legal process still had to be followed, as Gore followed it even though there were no objections submitted in advance that met the requirements.
Cheney left the door wide open for lawsuits because the main claim that people use to say that Obama is legitimate is that he was certified as the electoral winner - without which he could not be lawfully inaugurated. But he wasn’t lawfully certified as the winner. That throws that whole argument back in the faces of the people making the argument. If that was what they pinned their hats on, then their hats have long since fallen to the floor.
I may be crazy, but I can’t help but wonder if Cheney had some reason that he felt he couldn’t push the issue at the time but wanted to reserve the option of it being pushed later on. I also can’t help but wonder why Pelosi let him get away with it.
Either way, there’s definitely more to the story than meets the eye.