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To: SonsOfCollins_Wallace

I’m thinking about the fact that Dick Cheney never asked the question of whether there were objections, as required by law.

Why didn’t he ask the question?

Who would have “standing” to sue the government for breaking the law - which they did by failing to ask the question?

This whole “standing” issue has me totally confounded. It makes no sense to me at all. If our government breaks the law, who gets to “petition the government for a redress of grievances”? Seems like that’s a First Amendment right, just like freedom of religion, speech, and association. If a person can’t have standing to petition for a redress of grievances when the government breaks laws, would they have standing to sue if their free speech or freedom of religion is violated by Congress?

It just makes no sense to me.

I understand that there are internal procedures for Congress when the rules are broken there, because Congress determines its own rules. But we’re talking about the actual law here - a law requiring the VP to ask if there are objections to the electoral tally. They broke that law. So would the Bush DOJ file criminal charges for something like that, or where is the accountability?

I just don’t understand.


12 posted on 10/01/2010 11:56:23 AM PDT by butterdezillion (.)
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To: butterdezillion

Why didn’t he ask the question?

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My eternal haunting.


13 posted on 10/01/2010 12:03:53 PM PDT by STARWISE (The overlords are in place .. we are a nation under siege .. pray, go Galt & hunker down)
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To: butterdezillion

Like I said in the post - once the questioning starts there is no simple or safe or easy place to call a halt.
Cheney will have a lot to account for.
The “blood on the floor will be mixed” which is what I suspect is why the RNC is in a big twit about having real Conservatives coming into power.

To make sense of the situation consider; Bush was there to keep the NWO usurpation plans operational and the timeline in place. Obama was their (NWO/CFR/EU-banksters/SorusCrats/fellow traveler folks) choice and he had to be given cover once the deceit was out in front.

Q: Is a government takeover/coup action-plan a conspiracy if it’s done in full view, all players known in public, and without denials of the action plan.


14 posted on 10/01/2010 12:17:06 PM PDT by SonsOfCollins_Wallace ("... if yah ken behr eit" OR "where yah goin William ?.... ")
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To: butterdezillion

I’m thinking about the fact that Dick Cheney never asked the question of whether there were objections, as required by law.

Why didn’t he ask the question?

Who would have “standing” to sue the government for breaking the law - which they did by failing to ask the question?

This whole “standing” issue has me totally confounded. It makes no sense to me at all. If our government breaks the law, who gets to “petition the government for a redress of grievances”? Seems like that’s a First Amendment right, just like freedom of religion, speech, and association. If a person can’t have standing to petition for a redress of grievances when the government breaks laws, would they have standing to sue if their free speech or freedom of religion is violated by Congress?

It just makes no sense to me.

I understand that there are internal procedures for Congress when the rules are broken there, because Congress determines its own rules. But we’re talking about the actual law here - a law requiring the VP to ask if there are objections to the electoral tally. They broke that law. So would the Bush DOJ file criminal charges for something like that, or where is the accountability?

I just don’t understand.


Every one of the 75 or so lawsuits that has been filed challenging Obama’s eligibility is a “petition of the government for redress of grievances.”

Just because citizens have the right to petition doesn’t automatically guarantee that they will win on the merits.

When a plaintiff is not granted standing, the prudent thing to do is to present a different plaintiff who would have standing.

The Republican National Committee, Senator John McCain or Vice Presidential candidate Sarah Palin were my choices for the persons most likely to have been granted standing. I would even throw in Libertarian Party candidate Bob Barr as possibly being granted standing by a conservative judge disposed to rule on Obama’s eligibility.

There are NO issues of standing on the CRIMINAL side of the judicial system. If any government official had been charged with a crime or if Obama had been charged with forgery, fraud, or election fraud, standing would not be an issue.


15 posted on 10/01/2010 12:21:36 PM PDT by jamese777
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To: butterdezillion
Why didn’t he ask the question?

The Republican Party is complicit in Obama’s coup d'état. They became a party to the conspiracy, and the Democrats compromised the Republican candidate when Leahy and company "resolved" that John McCain was/is a "natural born" citizen. He isn’t, and was/is equally ineligible to serve as CiC.

The Democrats neutered McCain who never said a word about Rev. Wright, Bill Ayers, Alice Palmer, and the rest of the communists, socialists, black nationalists, and other assorted dirtbags that form Obama’s closest and longest lasting relationships and associations.

Most members of Congress are attorneys. The judges too. They all studied the Constitution. They know the law (at least enough to pass the bar). They know Obama is ineligible, but they made a deal with the devil and now have to live with it.


32 posted on 10/01/2010 2:30:17 PM PDT by Beckwith (A "natural born citizen" -- two American citizen parents and born in the USA.)
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