UN-backed ‘clean stove’ initiative to save lives and heal environment (What Beck talked about)

United Nations News Centre ^ | September 21, 2010

[2ndDivisionVet]

Aren't you glad we have so much money we can do things like this?

[Wisconsinlady]

Controlling the masses.

[Freddd]

No, actually what Glenn talked about was how it’s the banks that’s going to get the best out of this, by elitists redistributing our wealth to other countries.

[rockvillem]

Geez. Loved this part “some 3 billion cook stoves across Africa, Asia and Latin America, with the aim to protect women’s health”.

Total world population is less than 7 billion - sounds like these areas must be so rich that they have multiple cook stoves per household. Selfish wealthy - there should be a global cook stove tax to make sure that there aren’t too many. As to men’s health - so sad, too bad. Throw in a whole bunch of “may” qualifiers on the actual effects of these stoves, and you get the perfect UN press release!

[freespirited]

If my experience is any guide, regulation usually benefits the big players and screws the little ones.

[Jane Long]

“Our long term goal is to have universal adoption all over the world,” says Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.

Great. Universal adoption of cookstoves all over the world.

While one hand talks "cookstoves" watch the other hand even closer.

[ElayneJ]

“black carbon could now be responsible for between 10 to 40 per cent of current climate change”

I wonder if someone is keeping track of these percentages. I’m betting we’re up to something like 3,000 percent or so by now - everything makes up a large percentage of “climate change,” you know.

[screaminsunshine]

Anything with the word ‘Global’ is anti american and the enemy of Freedom. The same goes for anything ‘Green’. Code name for totalitarian socialism and communism.

[SatinDoll]

What an irony!

In the area I live in (southwest Washington State) many folks are turning to wood-burning as an energy source to save money.

[mmercier]

admittedly, i did not read the post. been there, done that...

i do know for fact that simple solar cooking units provided to third world peoples prevents the necessity of killing a tree for nightly cooking fire. they tend to eat too, unfortunately for some peoples sensibilities.

we see this as a waste here. india has about three hundred hundred million people at this very moment preparing their wood/dung fires for supper.

we spend more on lipstick in a week than it will cost to save a piece of forest larger than texas.

[Seruzawa]

Inefficient cooking stoves are estimated to be responsible for approximately 25 per cent of emissions of black carbon, particles often known as soot, of which 40 per cent is linked to wood burning,” he said.

According to research under the UNEP-supported Atmospheric Brown Cloud project, black carbon could now be responsible for between 10 to 40 per cent of current climate change.

Emissions of black carbon may also be accelerating melting rates of glaciers in mountain ranges such as the Himalayas, with the dark particles absorbing sunlight and raising ice temperatures. In addition, black carbon – a key component of brown clouds in some parts of the world – is contributing to dimming and reducing the amount of sunlight hitting the ground in polluted parts of the globe.

For example, some major cities in Asia may be up to 25 per cent dimmer or darker than they were half a century ago. Reductions in visible light may also be harming agriculture, again with implications for poverty and for combating hunger under the MDGs.

"Could", "maybe", "estimated", "may", "10 to 40 percent"....

Man, I love how these charlatans pull numbers out of their rectums. What a load of crap. Way past time for these clowns to be arrested under the Organized Crime laws.

[Logical me]

Anything with the word ‘Global’ is anti american and the enemy of Freedom. The same goes for anything ‘Green’. Code name for totalitarian socialism and communism.

Right on. Needs repeating. America needs healing in a bad way and we should stop funneling bull sh!! around the world. To hell with the rest of the world, nobody stopped them from raising their standards but themselves.

[cripplecreek]

Its happening on multiple fronts.

The recent GE lightbulb plant closure is part of the great carbon trading scam.

Government mandated the use of CFLs which can't be made here cheaply due to EPA regs. GE happily closes the plant and gains a windfall of carbon credits which are promptly sold to themselves in China. I suspect they also get carbon credits for producing the oh so energy efficient bulbs. In the end, we pay the price.

Here in Michigan the legislature mandates production cuts from energy producers. The energy producers in turn get an artificial increase in demand along with a lowering of overhead costs. In turn, they raise prices due to the increase in demand and have carbon credits to sell.

“Once you price CO2 and put a price on it, you find, as you would with any other product, it tends to be rationed. We as a people on this planet have lived under the false concept that air and water were free. And we’ve learned with a planet of 7 billion people, that we have to ration these precious goods. And the good old price system is the best way to do it.”

Richard Sandor, father of the carbon trading market. If ot sounds familiar its becaise John Holdren said very much the same thing the other day when he spoke about mandating which appliances we can buy.

[patton]

Exactly. Ack - do they just sit around and make up numbers?

Incredible.

[willk]

I had a college professor who spent a lot of his time promoting the solar ovens to third world countries. They are actually pretty neat and really cheap to make. The hard part is changing the way people cook. You prepare the food in the morning and by the afternoon it is ready. You don’t have to worry about burning or overcooking. I remember driving many miles outside Cancun and seeing all these myans gathering up firewood.

[Deaf Smith]

"prepare the food in the morning and by the afternoon it is ready"

The food would have to be attended the entire time to prevent animals/birds from feasting. A bad day of Sun shine equals slower cooking times and then you have a incubator for food poisoning.

Then you can consider the flies/bugs landing on open cooking containers.

[agere_contra]

Or they could just buy extraordinarily cheap energy from a coal-fired power station, then eat their meal right away.

Millions of solar stoves don’t come free you know. We’ve all manage to buy electricity and the upkeep of electrical infrastructure: how come Africans apparently need to have everything done for them?

[Chode]

africa, the so called ancient birthplace of civilization, has finally devolved to the point that it can no longer feed/water/clothe or house itself...

handouts from around the world will never solve their problems, only perpetuate them...

[agere_contra]

You are right. That is what aid does - it pauperises a population. Its internal entrepreneurs cannot compete with ‘free’.