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To: butterdezillion

As a point of reference...has anyone ever requested and received the list from other years? Say, the 1960 and/or the 1962.

Sure would be interesting if people requested and received the two years surrounding the target year...would raise some more questions.

Just a thought to ponder....


164 posted on 09/24/2010 10:25:39 AM PDT by SoftballMominVA
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To: SoftballMominVA

Rather than having it appear that they treat Obama’s records differently, they just don’t follow the rules on any of the requests.

That’s why they won’t release any non-certified abbreviated certificates of any kind, for any person, even though their Administrative Rules allow them to be released to anybody who asks for them. And UIPA requires that whatever may be released, must be released. The Ombudsman’s Office indirectly affirmed that this is the case and that if I wanted UIPA to be followed I should appeal to the OIP. But the OIP responded by saying that the HDOH gets to decide what the laws mean.

Get that - not the attorneys in the OIP Office or the attorneys in the Attorney General’s office. The HDOH (i.e. Fukino and Okubo, who are a doctor and a secretary). They get to decide what HRS 338 means and the OIP will not make judgments on whether they are actually following UIPA - which is the only reason the OIP even exists (to make sure that departments obey UIPA).

And it’s the same with other stuff. You can’t get a letter of verification, for instance, even though it’s in their rules. Okubo told me flat-out that they don’t do letters of verification. I can’t remember if I asked her whether they changed the law somehow, because HRS 338-18 mentions letters of verification, IIRC.

Basically the long and short of it is that they are breaking almost all of the rules to hide Obama’s records and to try to hide that they are changing rules for Obama’s sake.

In the P&E article, the researcher who visited the HDOH Office said that a woman in front of her in line ordered a long-form BC and was told it would arrive in the mail in about a week. Yet we’ve heard Danae’s account of how they have lost her order twice (IIRC) and are still delaying.

What it comes down to is this: they trust the people in Hawaii and will follow the rules just as always for them. They don’t trust anybody outside of Hawaii and they will sandbag and gaslight them in every way they can, because they are convinced that everything is about Obama and they can’t have anybody find out how things really are in their office.

Is that discrimination? Heck, yes.


168 posted on 09/24/2010 11:06:23 AM PDT by butterdezillion (.)
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