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The Great Birth Index Fiasco
http://butterdezillion.wordpress.com/2010/09/22/the-great-birth-index-fiasco/ ^ | 09-22-10 | Butterdezillion

Posted on 09/22/2010 11:52:14 AM PDT by butterdezillion

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To: El Sordo

Do you know how I can get my last name off of my e-mail account information?


101 posted on 09/22/2010 6:15:28 PM PDT by butterdezillion (.)
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To: butterdezillion

Turn the computer off, set all the political stuff aside and focus on the family for one week.

We all have to take a break from FR and external stresses from time to time.


102 posted on 09/22/2010 6:15:43 PM PDT by El Sordo (The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.)
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To: butterdezillion; Danae

Great thread you two. ;-)


103 posted on 09/22/2010 6:18:35 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: butterdezillion
It will depend on your e-mail program.

I'd expect to find it under the realm of ‘Tools’, ‘Options’, ‘Preferences’ or such.

Check your help file too, it may explain the process.

Or try a web search with the name of you e-mail program and the term “display full name”. That ought to get you int he right direction.

Feel free to e-mail me at my personal address and I'll tell you if it worked.

104 posted on 09/22/2010 6:28:35 PM PDT by El Sordo (The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.)
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To: butterdezillion

1) Anonymous Person #2, “TsunamiGeno,” says that “supporting documentation” and “certified copies” weren’t available to the public. He says nothing about mere photocopies not being allowed.

2) The P&E person specifically says there was an area where you could make digital images.

3) The fact that the P&E person got an image, whether by scan or by photo, shows that “TsunamiGeno” could have too.

4) Again, who actually told you that the public can’t photocopy index data? Are you basing that conclusion entirely upon “TsunamiGeno”?

5) Lest we lose track of the larger point, my original observation was:

“An anonymous blogger supposedly retained the services of a second anonymous person, who then made an unevidenced trip to Hawaii on an unspecified date six months ago, during which time was made an astounding discovery that the second anonymous person failed to make any record of (e.g., a simple photocopy of the index page where “Obama” would fall alphabetically), which the first anonymous person failed to report to anyone for six months (despite writing about said supposed trip way back in May).”

Even if we grant the as-yet-unproven-and-seemingly-contradicted assertion that photocopies aren’t allowed, then that changes the above to the oh-so-radically-different:

“An anonymous blogger supposedly retained the services of a second anonymous person, who then made an unevidenced trip to Hawaii on an unspecified date six months ago, during which time was made an astounding discovery that the second anonymous person failed to make any record of (e.g., a simple cell phone snapshot), which the first anonymous person failed to report to anyone for six months (despite writing about said supposed trip way back in May).”

It’s gone from second-hand, undocumented, delayed, anonymous hearsay to, well, second-hand, undocumented, delayed, anonymous hearsay. Ooooo...*so* much more persuasive.


105 posted on 09/22/2010 6:58:45 PM PDT by LorenC
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To: Red Steel

Thanks! Not gotten much in the way of argument as far as my theory goes. Not gotten much commentary on it at all. Even though it seems to sort of tell the whole story.

I find it odd that the after-birthers aren’t dissing it.


106 posted on 09/22/2010 7:06:22 PM PDT by Danae (Analnathrach, orth' bhais's bethad, do che'l de'nmha.)
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To: LorenC

Loren.... EVERYTHING on the internet is hearsay. Including Obama’s Fact Check COLB.

This is why B is looking to increase interest enough to get someone to pick up the story who is either in Law or big in the press.

NOT talking about this, is = to accepting fraud and an unconstitutional POTUS. Even the POSSIBILITY of POTUS being illegitimate ought to be investigated IMMEDIATELY instead of mocked.

These aren’t little light issues. There is SIGNIFICANT reason to believe Obama is hiding something. Mostly because he refuses to take the simple easy out and end the controversy by releasing a LEGITIMATE copy of his Birth Documents.

Instead, Hawaii is changing its rule with no legal authority. It is deliberately breaking it’s own laws.

Explain off THAT reality.


107 posted on 09/22/2010 7:14:49 PM PDT by Danae (Analnathrach, orth' bhais's bethad, do che'l de'nmha.)
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To: Danae

Like I said, this makes Watergate look like a kiddie pool.

heheh can I borrow/use that fine line of reality?


108 posted on 09/22/2010 7:56:15 PM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: Danae

Like I said, this makes Watergate look like a kiddie pool.

heheh can I borrow/use that fine line of reality?


109 posted on 09/22/2010 7:56:21 PM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: El Sordo
I must confess B, I am unclear as to what leads you to believe you have any legal protections of privacy in your dealings with any of the branches of Hawaiian government.

Conversely, what protections does Obama have that they have given him and not others?

110 posted on 09/22/2010 8:01:00 PM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: El Sordo
I must confess B, I am unclear as to what leads you to believe you have any legal protections of privacy in your dealings with any of the branches of Hawaiian government.

Conversely, what protections does Obama have that they have given him and not others?

111 posted on 09/22/2010 8:01:10 PM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: LorenC

For somebody who thinks Obama’s Factcheck COLB is fine and dandy you’re mighty sarcastic about “second-hand, undocumented, delayed, anonymous hearsay”

I smell a double-standard from a mile away, LorenC, the anonymous poster.

I know ladysforest and I have no doubt that her source is reliable.

And I can see with my eyes that the image on P&E is a photo. TsunamiGeno did not get a photo of the record. The worker said he could not have “a copy”. Make of that what you will.

If everything is as you say, why is the HDOH refusing to release the birth index? Why are they specifically lying about not having my request for the computer-generated 1961 birth index, which was received by e-mail on July 29 and by snail-mail on Aug 4th?

Why are they doing this? You tell me.


112 posted on 09/22/2010 8:06:48 PM PDT by butterdezillion (.)
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To: azishot

Mark.


113 posted on 09/22/2010 8:08:39 PM PDT by azishot (I can see November from my house!)
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To: rolling_stone

hmm double posting with one click-—hey-Brennan, cut it out, get better snooping equipment this one has the hiccups!


114 posted on 09/22/2010 8:10:54 PM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: LucyT

Ping....


115 posted on 09/22/2010 8:12:46 PM PDT by azishot (I can see November from my house!)
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To: rolling_stone

Heck ya!

I am certain I am not the only one who has used that jedi line of goodness!!

:)


116 posted on 09/22/2010 9:16:43 PM PDT by Danae (Analnathrach, orth' bhais's bethad, do che'l de'nmha.)
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To: butterdezillion

The issue that faithers seem to miss is that the HI DOH has the ability to release and/or confirm a great deal of information in regards to Obama’s birth records and alleged COLB — under the protection of the law. These laws are written in order to provide the general public reasonable amounts of information, and in this case, it’s in regards to a public figure who doesn’t have the same privacy expectations as the average citizen. Second, it’s very clear from your documentation that the HI DOH is pursuing a policy of intentional difficulty, deception and outright dishonesty. Why do faithers makes excuses for that??


117 posted on 09/22/2010 10:40:07 PM PDT by edge919
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To: butterdezillion

There are a few people in Hawaii who got bags of cash to keep quiet. I’m convinced.


118 posted on 09/23/2010 4:31:24 AM PDT by PA-RIVER
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To: edge919

Good points.

I’ll be interested to hear how Loren responds to my question about why they’re lying about not having my request.

I need to go back to that post by bvw and write down the terminology he used for the tactics being employed. It described the HDOH to a T. And the Passport Office. And the Social Security Administration. And Obama’s counsel. And...


119 posted on 09/23/2010 6:39:18 AM PDT by butterdezillion (.)
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To: butterdezillion

Sandbagging and Gaslighting.

Did you make contact with C. L.?


120 posted on 09/23/2010 6:51:45 AM PDT by JohnnyP
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