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To: Will88
"Or maybe many on here post things as fact they can't really substantiate. At the end of my first post, I said the article probably doesn't provide enough information to draw conclusions. "

Of course it does. You have to use just a little common sense.

You said in an earlier post, "And many here keep saying the mosque is private property."

Of course it's private property. How many mosques or other places of worship are on public property? Here's a hint - ZERO (other than those built, staffed and maintained by the US Armed Forces). In this country (with VERY limited exception), property is either public (owned by the government on behalf of the people), or it's private - deeded and titled to a private individual, partnership, or corporation.

If it's private property - and it's CLEARLY private property - then the owner (and his designee) enjoy the full rights and privileges of any private property owner.

"There might not be any precedents for this specific circumstance, and I wouldn't wait for those Muslim women to file a law suit to clarify it."

Again, think about what you're saying - you think that there might be a chance that plaintiffs in a lawsuit will win an injunction to tell a house of worship how it may exercise its fundamental 1A right. Does that seem at all likely?

To take the thought exercise one step further, do you think a woman could sue a Catholic church because the church wouldn't make her a priest? Does that seem likely? Of course not.

There are a whole host of Supreme Court cases where the Court affirms a private group's right to not associate, Roberts v. United States Jaycees, 468 U.S. 609 (1984) and Boy Scouts of America et al. v. Dale, 530 U.S. 640 (2000) are just two that come to mind immediately. But, there are others.

The Church (or mosque in this case) enjoys a robust 1A right to limit, exclude or define its membership, as well as a robust right to define or structure its religious services, to include the gender segregation of those services. The police in this case did the only thing they could do, and what they were legally obligated to do - enforce the private property rights of the owner, and remove the trespassers.

50 posted on 09/16/2010 7:27:52 PM PDT by OldDeckHand
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To: OldDeckHand; Will88
Not to mention the fact that if the mosque was public, there might be a slight problem with that little thing called the Establishment Clause.
52 posted on 09/16/2010 7:37:18 PM PDT by The Pack Knight (Laugh, and the world laughs with you. Weep, and the world laughs at you.)
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To: OldDeckHand

Waste of time. You have provided nothing which substantiates that it is a proper function for any law enforcement agency to become involved with this specific type situation.

Lol, many churches divide their Sunday School classes and other functions by age and sex. So, according to you, if some church members go to classes not intended for their age and sex, and refuse to leave, then the church should call the cops to come and straighten it out.

I’m finished with this thread. This is one for the courts in such very specific situations.


57 posted on 09/16/2010 8:05:15 PM PDT by Will88
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