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The snag with that is that they can get a copy if the HDOH is satisfied that it is necessary to determine property or other rights.

The HDOH will never be satisfied. As long as they are the gate-keepers of the records nothing will ever be good enough.

You gave them the argument that both yourself and Obama himself could be in jeopardy because of the issue being unresolved. Didn’t budge them an inch.

I have sent a cease and desist letter to them because they keep addressing me by my last name even though I have only called myself “Nellie”. They get my last name from looking at my e-mail account information, and then they address me by that, which means that they converted the alias that I used (just “Nellie”) into a first and last name which they then disclose to people who ask to see my requests. They are forcing my real identity to be used even though I gave an alias.

In my cease and desist letter I noted that I have received threats and it would not be well for their office if somebody was able to make good on their threats because the HDOH illegally disclosed my real identity when I had chosen to use an alias.

Do you suppose they will give one extra moment’s thought to my safety? I told them to take out their references to my last name in all their responses to me. Any bets as to whether they will do it?

As long as an issue is left to their discretion - such as whether somebody could be endangered - they will take the easy road and do whatever serves their office the best.

I’ve become cynical because of what I’ve seen these people do. They can’t be trusted.

It can’t hurt to try, I suppose. But I think we already know what their response will be, based on how they’ve acted towards us.

I argued the health and safety provision of UIPA as a reason to disclose. That provision was superceded by HRS 3318-18.

So, I was told I didn’t have a tangible interest.

In Lakin’s case, he could have tangible interest as the individual making the request.

Regardless, I know the DOH won’t disclose, it’s getting it in front of a judge that’s important. The UIPA states that the judge will view the requested record behind closed doors.

If for example, the BC is suspect and has been amended or filed late with a non-institution birth, or foreign birth—the judge would really have to throw out all law to declare that Lakin has no tangible interest and that Obama’s BC is not necessary for the “determination of his personal rights.”

Anyway, Lakin requesting would be very different than me requesting. He wouldn’t have to even cite UIPA. He could just make a direct request and state his tangible interest.