Posted on 09/07/2010 12:43:35 PM PDT by gjmerits
The Gettysburg speech was at once the shortest and the most famous oration in American history...the highest emotion reduced to a few poetical phrases. Lincoln himself never even remotely approached it. It is genuinely stupendous. But let us not forget that it is poetry, not logic; beauty, not sense. Think of the argument in it. Put it into the cold words of everyday. The doctrine is simply this: that the Union soldiers who died at Gettysburg sacrificed their lives to the cause of self-determination - that government of the people, by the people, for the people, should not perish from the earth. It is difficult to imagine anything more untrue. The Union soldiers in the battle actually fought against self-determination; it was the Confederates who fought for the right of their people to govern themselves.
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Lincoln was a racist and didn't run his 1860 campaign as an abolitionist.
However if you were to ask the average sheeple, Lincoln was an abolitionist who wanted to free blacks and loved the black race.
That is revisionism at its finest.
Only because you haven't gotten really warmed up yet, though you've come close.
Me and your old man would have got along...
I feel the spirit ofMajor Randolph coming on.....
Yep. This crap's getting deeper by the moment. You've got competition in the Southron BS department, C_VA.
I think you are trying to form a coherent thought, I’m not quite sure though.
Perhaps you should go lie down until the pain goes away.
I had the same feeling this morning. But I took care of it and then I flushed.
It was the Confederates who were in violation of the Constitution.
Mainly imaginary.
“Lincoln was a racist and didn’t run his 1860 campaign as an abolitionist.”
Lincoln is on record as saying that if he could save the Union by freeing all slaves, he would do so; if he could save it by freeing no slaves, he would do that. He also favored sending freed slaves back to Liberia rather than integrating them into the fabric of American society. It’s very clear he viewed blacks as intellectually and morally inferior to whites.
Sorry, them New England liberals had been violating the Constitution for many years..
Looky here, Mr. Federalist - Daniel Webster of Massachusetts
If the South were to violate any part of the Constitution intentionally and systematically, and persist in so doing, year after year, and no remedy could be had, would the North be any longer bound by the rest of it? And if the North were deliberately, habitually, and of fixed purpose to disregard one part of it, would the South be bound any longer to observe its other obligations? I have not hesitated to say, and I repeat, that if the Northern States refuse, willfully and deliberately, to carry into effect that part of the Constitution which respects the restoration of fugitive slaves, and Congress provide no remedy, the South would no longer be bound to observe the compact. A bargain cannot be broken on one side and still bind the other side.
The path was set by Hamilton before the ink even dried on the Constitution. Men of evil intent desire wealth and power over their fellows. Period. The problem has always been how to check them. The Constitution clearly did not.
If the civil war was only about slavery - then how do you explain that slavery was legally carried out in the “union” after the civil war, and that the emancipation proclamation freed only some slaves?
(No slaves in the union were freed and those slaves in certain parishes in LA were excluded from the proclamation.)
And that differs him from any Southerner you care to name how?
Because the rebellion was about slavery...from the Southern point of view.
but not on the union side?
Really, that is your best response?
It has withstood the corrosives of apostate Puritans for over two centuries.
Deo vindice, jayhawker.
From the Union side? No. The North fought to preserve the Union, nothing more and nothing less. An end to slavery was a fortunate offshoot of the victory but never the reason for fighting.
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