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1 posted on 08/26/2010 9:48:42 AM PDT by butterdezillion
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The Whopper That Got Away

Last week an article entitled, “Look Here, Birthers!” drew attention to a video which showed what was claimed to be Obama’s passport. That article and video came shortly after 2 FOIA requests for the passport records of Obama’s mother had been answered with the release of some documents. While the FOIA responses and passport video were being analyzed in the blogosphere – a necessary venture – a much bigger story was being ignored: what I’ll call “The Whopper That Got Away”.

The Whopper
Among the documents the State Department released to Chris Strunk was a 1967 amendment to a passport issued to Stanley Ann Dunham in 1965. In the official FOIA response it was explained:

“We did not locate a I965 passport application referenced in an application for amendment of passport that is included in the released documents. Many, passport applications and other non-vital records from that period were destroyed during the 1980s in accordance with guidance from the General Services Administration.”

Later, an affidavit was filed by Alex Galovich (see at http://nativeborncitizen.wordpress.com/2010/08/02/strunk-v-d-o-s-doc-37-2-declaration/ ), the supervisor in charge of FOIA responses for the State Department. The affidavit described how Strunk’s request was processed and included a memo cryptically dated Feb 6, 1985 which claimed that

1) Sometime between the late 60’s and 1982, passport file retention requirements were changed from 100 years to 15-20 years, and

2) A project begun in June of 1984 had resulted in the destruction of records from 125 million passport files dating through November of 1961. The 40 workers, if full-time, would each have processed about 2,170 files/hour (taking about 2 seconds apiece), sorting out records in Class A from Class B (below). I think you can see why I call this “The Whopper”:

Class A:

A listing of the primary documents being retained is
As follows:
…REPORTS OF BIRTH
…CERTIFICATES OF WITNESS TO MARRIAGE
…CERTIFICATES OF LOSS OF NATIONALITY (WITH
ATTACHED FILES)
…REPORTS OF DEATH
…APPLICATIONS WITH DELAYED BIRTH CERTIFICATES
OR SPECIAL REGISTRATIONS ATTACHED
…APPLICATIONS (NATIVE BORN) WITH SECONDARY
EVIDENCE OF BIRTH/IDENTITY ATTACHED
…APPLICATIONS OF FOREIGN BORN CITIZENS
…APPLICATIONS INCLUDING FOREIGN BORN CITIZENS
…APPLICATIONS OF WOMEN ACQUIRING CITIZENSHIP
THROUGH MARRIAGE
APPLICATIONS TO RESUME CITIZENSHIP (VOTING IN ITALIAN
ELECTIONS BETWEEN 1/1/46 AND 4/10/18)
…APPLICATIONS TO TAKE OATH OF ALLEGIANCE AND
RENUNCIATION (SERVICE IN CANADIAN ARMY)
…APPLICATIONS FOR REGISTRATION, INCLUDING
APPLICATIONS FOR CERTIFICATES OR CARDS OF IDENTITY,
OR CARDS ISSUED FOR BORDER CROSSING PURPOSES.
…REGISTRATION APPLICATIONS
…ALL PHILIPPINE PASSPORT RECORDS
…LOOK-OUT CASES
…POSSIBLE LOSS, NON-ACQUISITION, NOR-RETENTION,
DENIALS, LIMITATIONS, REVOCATIONS, QUESTIONABLE
CITIZENSHIP CLAIMS, ETC (WITH ATTACHED FILED)
…FRAUDULENT CITIZENSHIP CASES OR CASES INVOLVING
FRAUDULENT USE OF PASSPORT
…OUTSTANDING LOANS
…CLASSIFIED FILES.

Class B:
A listing of the primary documents being eliminated follows:
ROUTINE PASSPORT APPLICATIONS FOR NATIVE
BORN CITIZENS (WITH OR WITHOUT BIRTH
CERTIFICATES OR PHOTOSTATIC COPIES OF
BIRTH CERTIFICATES ATTACHED)
ROUTINE RENEWAL APPLICATIONS
ROUTINE APPLICATIONS FOR FOR PASSPORTS FOR
NATIVE BORN CITIZENS WHERE PREVIOUS
PASSPORT USED AS EVIDENCE
CORRESPONDENCE OF NON-CITIZENSHIP NATURE
CHARGE-OUT SHEETS BEFORE 1969

That Got Away
And this alleged passport retention change and destruction of records “got away” without leaving any evidence in the official records. Agencies such as the State Department are “required to schedule all their records” (see http://www.archives.gov/records-mgmt/publications/disposition-of-federal-records/chapter-5.html#V.Obtaining ) – that is, to determine whether each record is to be kept, for how long, and in what form. The instructions for specific records is their “disposition”. Changing the disposition requires a formal process which is documented in the Federal Register, numbered, and posted (See 3303a at http://www.archives.gov/about/laws/disposal-of-records.html ).

A search of the Federal Register failed to locate a change from a 100-year retention to a 15-20-year retention for passport records. Further inquiries are being made.

The State Department’s listing of dispositions is at http://www.archives.gov/records-mgmt/rcs/schedules/index.html?dir=/departments/department-of-state/rg-0059 . Those records include disposition changes for passport records that took place:

1) In 1978 when microfilming was required and paper records were allowed to be destroyed 15 years after microfilming (see at http://www.archives.gov/records-mgmt/rcs/schedules/departments/department-of-state/rg-0059/nc1-059-78-01_sf115.pdf ),

2) In 1979 when vital records were required to be kept separate from passport applications (see http://www.archives.gov/records-mgmt/rcs/schedules/departments/department-of-state/rg-0059/nc1-059-79-12_sf115.pdf ),

3) In 1982 when disposable statistics records were created (see #27 and #28 at http://www.archives.gov/records-mgmt/rcs/schedules/departments/department-of-state/rg-0059/nc1-059-83-04_sf115.pdf ) ,

4) And in 1997, when the dispositions of all the records, by years, was clarified and reiterated – with passport applications and associated records from 1925-1970 required to be retained for 100 years. (see at at http://www.archives.gov/records-mgmt/rcs/schedules/departments/department-of-state/rg-0059/n1-059-96-005_sf115.pdf ).

That latest request, in 1997, lists the previous dispositions which were to be superseded - including #1-3 above and the agency’s records transfer orders for implementing those dispositions. Nothing on this even applies to passport files from 1925-1970, which is probably why the section on 1925-1970 is crossed out – since the instructions there are just a reiteration of the disposition still in effect and not a change at all. If there had been a change from a 100-year retention to a 15-20-year retention in the 1980’s which has since been changed back (explaining the current disposition on the Passport Office’s site – see Jacobsen Exhibit E), that is where it should be listed. It’s not.

The only trace of this alleged change is this memo submitted for Strunk’s FOIA case, to explain why the Passport Office didn’t disclose Stanley Ann Dunham’s 1965 passport application. This begs the question of why neither Galovich nor the memo he cited included either a copy, reference number , or date for the actual disposition change being claimed.

In the entire set of records dispositions for passport documents (found at http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/128494.pdf ), the only retention periods less than 100 years are for:

A) Paper records from 1983-1999 which have already been microfilmed (which are to be retained in paper form for 15 years)
B) Abandoned and expired registrations and applications
C) Surrendered passport books.
D) Passport authorization lists which have already been microfilmed (retain paper copies 50 years)
E) Disposable statistics and accounting records
F) Routine correspondence and UIPA Requests

The only reference to a 15- or 20-year retention period is for paper copies of passport records that have already been microfilmed. Microfilming was made mandatory in 1977 for passport files (see http://www.archives.gov/records-mgmt/rcs/schedules/departments/department-of-state/rg-0059/nc1-059-78-01_sf115.pdf ) .

The Evidence to Refute the Whopper

Unfortunately for the Passport Office, Phil Jacobsen requested and received his mother’s passport application from 1953 – a routine application which would have been destroyed along with Dunham’s if the records from those dates had actually been destroyed as claimed in the memo.

Alex Galovich said in his affidavit that the Passport Office searched PIERS (Passport Information Electronic Records Service), an electronic database of passports issued in 1978 and later, using Dunham’s various name combinations for the search. Although Galovich said, “The Department of State also maintains paper records of some passport applications”, he never said they searched the paper records.

In his affidavit and supporting Exhibits, Jacobsen shows that paper index records were required to be retained permanently. A search of those index cards would have revealed the status and location of the “missing” 1965 passport application as well as any other passport applications within the timeframe Strunk’s request covered (1960-1985).

Summary

1. The claim that Dunham’s pre-1967 passport records were destroyed is contradicted by the existence of Jacobsen’s mother’s passport documents from 1953.

2. Currently no record of change of retention periods has been found, and efforts to locate any such changes are continuing. Passport Services was contacted by phone and asked if passport records before 1970 had been destroyed; they refused to state whether they had or had not been destroyed, suggesting that would have to be answered by writing to the State Department.

3. The Passport Office’s website lists a 100-year retention requirement for passport files from 1925-1970 and has no warning or disclaimer that records before 1969 may have been destroyed as Galovich alleges. There is a charge of $50/person (or $150 for a third party) to search for passport records. If they are charging people to search for records from 1925-1970 that they falsely told people exist, and in fact have been destroyed, that appears to be a continuing fraud.

4. The claims on the memo in Galovich’s Declaration are not only unsupported by the documentation, they are physically impossible. The great probability is that this memo was totally fabricated as an excuse to keep from having to disclose Stanley Ann Dunham’s pre-1967 passport records. The State Department should either produce the required disposition change records to substantiate their claim, or refer this case to the DOJ Inspector General for an investigation of potential wrong-doing.

5. The permanent paper index cards would show ALL passports that were issued to Dunham, allowing those passport applications to be located. Those should be released immediately.


2 posted on 08/26/2010 9:50:33 AM PDT by butterdezillion (.)
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To: butterdezillion; humblegunner

Here’s a clickable link for the blog (sorry, humblegunner)
http://butterdezillion.wordpress.com/2010/08/26/the-whopper-that-got-away-4/


3 posted on 08/26/2010 9:52:58 AM PDT by butterdezillion (.)
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To: butterdezillion

Interesting.


5 posted on 08/26/2010 9:59:16 AM PDT by DustyMoment
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To: LucyT

Lucy, can you ping the list on this thread?

Thanks!


7 posted on 08/26/2010 10:03:02 AM PDT by butterdezillion (.)
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To: butterdezillion

your work IS appreciated by many, THANK YOU


13 posted on 08/26/2010 12:04:15 PM PDT by phockthis
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To: butterdezillion
They are lying!

butterdezillion, thank you so much for all the hard work that you have done and are doing. You are a true patriot.

22 posted on 08/26/2010 2:39:38 PM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: butterdezillion
" There appears to be a high likelihood that this memo, submitted with an affidavit, is a complete fabrication - an excuse for not showing Stanley Ann Dunham's pre-1967 passport records. "

The Passport office is lying and they know it about Stanley Ann's passport.
26 posted on 08/26/2010 6:12:16 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: butterdezillion

The mystery giving up it’s secrets, the OBOTS and the trolls will be in for a whirl of a surprise and stupor when they find out the truth.


29 posted on 08/26/2010 6:39:34 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: butterdezillion
Remember Butter, Elisha and the King of Syria.
The King's schemes and plans where not hidden or in secret, for GOD revealed the very words of the King to Elisha even in his private bed chambers, there is nothing hidden from the watchful eye of the GOD of Israel.
God will have a way to bring this whole lie and scam on the American people to the light of day.
More evidence, proof, documents, papers, will be coming forth as the days, weeks go by whether Obama likes it or not, for he can't fight against the hand of the GOD of Israel and expect to win.
30 posted on 08/26/2010 6:55:16 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: butterdezillion

Thanks again for the incredible work that you have done.

Number one: it seems to me very likely that the 1965 passport application is hidden for the following reason: she first got a passport in 1960 Born in 1961 for travel to somewhere — for example Kenya or Canada.

Passports at that time were valid for three or five years so the time periods could have been 1960 up to 1965, or 1961 to 1964 or up to 1966 depending on the validity — whether it was valid for three years or five years. This is why the data cannot be released for the 1965 application, because it would show what was happening in 1960 and 1961.

Number two: shouldn’t some people now request for copies of their first passports or their parents passports to see what comes back for the period 1950 to 1970. Clearly, one person has already received information from the 1950s, but it would be better to use information from the 1960s.

Just a few would be required.


36 posted on 08/27/2010 2:01:00 AM PDT by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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To: butterdezillion
Pretty soon Soebarkah will need to announce and confirm his intention to campaign for President in 2012. (US Presidency, Not Kenyan)

January of 2011, Republicans will begin the process. January of 2011, Democrats will need him to announce his intentions.

2011, the heat gets turned up every month on this issue.

42 posted on 08/27/2010 7:44:35 AM PDT by PA-RIVER
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To: butterdezillion
Soebarkah is qualified to run for the Kenyan Presidency for the 2012 Kenyan election, being that he is a Natural born Kenyan.

So far, he has not indicated if he will run. US law forbids him from holding more than one office, so I think he would need to resign the American presidency in 2012.

I think it would be appropriate that we start a campaign for him, here in the states, in 2011.

43 posted on 08/27/2010 7:59:44 AM PDT by PA-RIVER
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