Posted on 08/25/2010 5:26:17 AM PDT by JohnnyBibs
Lincoln was a bad president, and the beginning of the end of this Republic.
Calvin Coolidge Republican > Lincoln Republican
I like Washington and John Adams.
Question. If our rights come from God, if you are not a believer in God, shouldn’t that negate your right to rights?
all I know is that independents either did not show up or American’s like the pain. If ever we needed term limits it is now.
ML/NJ
Lincoln was the worst “ Republican “ of all.
As Shelby Foote noted, BEFORE Lincoln’s War, it was:
The United States ARE
AFTER the War, it was :
The United States IS
Everything has gone downhill since Lincoln first took the oath of office......Teddy, Woodrow, Franklin, Lyndon....now Barack. You can’t undo the damage they’ve done to the Republic.........unless.........
you just start over completely, as in.....REVOLUTION !
There are five questions you can ask any candidate to see if they are a conservative, or something else.
1) Should America build a fence, militarize the southern border, and deport all illegals?
2) Should DADT be preserved, gay marriage and unrestricted abortion as a form of birth control should be banned?
3) Should America bring home its troops, end foreign aid payments, and let countries we compete with in the world marketplace pay for their own defense?
4) Should America slash the size of government and government spending - by 50% or more - and institute a 10% flat tax rate?
5) Should America restrict free and open trade to civilized western democracies with equivalent standards of living?
Any true conservative and American patriot should be able to answer all five questions with an unequivocal “Yes.” If a candidate answers no to any one of these questions, you have to do some real digging into what their motivation is.
For instance, take a candidate like John McCain...this “pseudo conservative” would answer all these questions with a “No.”
I think of myself as a Coolidge Republican.
The rights are there from God, whether any specific person believes in Him or not. The problem is if someone does not believe, they may not/will not stand up for their rights.
Okay, I really can't help myself from responding to a paradox, so -
The bosom of America is open to receive not only the Opulent and respectable Stranger, but the oppressed and persecuted of all Nations and Religions; whom we shall welcome to a participation of all our rights and privileges, if by decency and propriety of conduct they appear to merit the enjoyment.
George Washington, Address to the Members of the Volunteer Association of Ireland, December 2, 1783
Lincoln Republicans....you mean someone who wants to set aside the Constitution and concentrate power away from the states and to the federal government?
Unfortunately, we have far too many “Lincoln Republicans” running around Washington DC now, as it is.
Other than destroying the republic, states rights and killing 6000,000 in the process, I have no problem with the man.
Of course not. We possess these natural, inherent rights by virtue of our creation in the image of God. This is true, regardless of whether someone believes in God or not. This is why rights are called "unalienable" - they cannot be deferred or given away, even by the possessor his or herself.
I see the Southern brand of Republicans have begun to show up.
Totally agree. There are some things worth fighting for.
Lincoln suspended several Constitutional protections during the war. A Lincoln-Republican would be someone who is willing to allow government to exceed the authority granted to them by the Constitution to overcome a crisis. While it worked for Lincoln, this is a dangerous position to take.
You could even consider Obama to be a Lincoln-Democrat. In his case, it isn’t working.
As Shelby Foote noted, BEFORE Lincoln’s War, it was:
The United States ARE
AFTER the War, it was :
The United States IS
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Inclined to agree with you to a point. I blame Lincoln for much of that war, but I blame the "Radical Republicans" (after his death) for what happened during Reconstruction. Secession was a terrible mistake, but there were many mistakes made on both sides There was no excuse for slavery and there was no excuse for the economic prejudices of the North/East.
I have a lot of respect for Lincoln, but I would not considerate him anywhere close to being the "Best Republican President". At best, he might rank in the high 20s to mid-30s in ranking . . . . . . at best!
Lincoln started the Civil War by ignoring the Constitution AND the Federalist Papers in order to impose his will on the country. The south paid a huge price and penalty for his tyranny. IMO, he was the Obama of his day.
I think this guy a little whacked.
The non-Southern brands of Republicans would never have come back to power during the Reagan administration except for them. They defected from the Dem ranks 25 year ago due to the leftist takeover of the Dem party. I have never been a Dem.
I am a lover of the Constitution, freedom and free association. If that makes me less a “Republican” “so be it”.
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