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To: jdirt
Ok, lets say that he is not a citizen and it is proved beyond a shadow of a doubt, then what?
What would be the consequences? Would he be removed and if so by whom?
12 posted on 07/31/2010 6:42:23 PM PDT by svcw (Real faith is always increased by opposition, false confidence is damaged & discouraged by it)
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To: svcw

Would he be removed and if so by whom?
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I’ll do it.


41 posted on 07/31/2010 7:41:36 PM PDT by Neidermeyer
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To: svcw

If he is not a citizen, then we have a constitutional crisis. We would need the Army to take him out by force. He would then be locked up until some foreign country asked to have him. Probably Kenya.


134 posted on 08/01/2010 4:06:38 AM PDT by PA-RIVER
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To: svcw
His presidency would be void ab inotio. That means his fraud prevented America from electing a presidet. We would have to have some kind of interim government and hold a new election.

The Office of president would have to be vacant util we elected one.Not much different than now actually. With him there its the same as not haviing a president.

190 posted on 08/01/2010 12:40:49 PM PDT by Candor7 (Obama .......yes......is fascist... ..He meets every diagnostic of history.)
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To: svcw
Keep in mind that though passport and birth information could affirm that Barack is illegitimate, he is assuredly illigitimate because he was born the son of an alien. The affirmation of our common law is certainly harder to understand than if he were not 35 years or had not been resident for 14 years or had not been born in the U.S. Our law is currently controlled by public opinion, shaped by a press almost entirely controlled by “The Ruling Class” (Thank you Angelo Codevilla). Most have been dissuaded from reading the words of our framers and Supreme Court cases to understand the truth, since our media are aggressively covering for Obama using the now familiar Alinsky tactic of ridicule.

Obama would probably be removed by the military, after a clarification of the definition by the Supreme Court, the method employed by Honduras when their President blatantly violated his constitution. It is reasonable, though it "depends upon what is is", that the recent Obama appointees to the court would recuse themselves, since they will lose their appointments if the framer's understanding is upheld. It is unlikely that Obama would be sent to a neighboring country, as will Zelaya. It appears the civilian Obama has committed a number of felonies as a fundraiser, and by using multiple social security numbers. He may actually have stated that he was a natural born citizen, though that is not at all clear. Only two states, Hawaii and Arizona required such a declaration, and Nancy Pelosi signed those declarations for the private corporation, the Democratic Party. Obama, on his own web site, told us he was a “Native born citizen of the U.S.” A “native born” citizen is born on our soil, but not necessarily of citizen parents.

If someone can find evidence of nonnative birth, it may be easier for the public to accept Obama’s removal in this period of virtually complete silence on the law by “The Ruling Class.” The last public officials to openly talk about the concept of jus sanguinis contained in Article II Section 1 of our Constitution were all 100 U.S. Senators in April of 2008 when they agreed with Senator Pat Leahy who said “I believe that someone born of two citizen parents is a natural born citizen.” He was referring specifically to John McCain, in the ploy to imply the John McCain was eligible, thus to silence any questions about Obama’s eligibility. Obama, not born of two citizen parents by his own admission, but was a cosponsor of Senate Res. 511. There is an implied assumption that the public is too ignorant of our laws, and incapable of logical thought. We can be cowed with the loud and self important proclamations of the media that questioning Obama’s eligibility makes us fools, rather like questioning global warning, or that carbon dioxide is a pollutant, or that redistribution will make us secure and improve the quality of our lives. The difference with eligiblity is that our framer's documents cannot easily be scrubbed.

Cases in our Supreme Court are still available. Pat Leahy scrubbed his government website of the Senate Res. 511 documents, but there is a Congressional Archive. Many of us saved the press announcements of the McCaskill-Leahy Resolution, and the previous Senate Bill 2678, Feb 2008, also to provide cover for McCain; a “Children of Military Families Natural Born Citizens Act”, to “To clarify the law and ensure that children born to United States citizens while serving overseas in the military are eligible to become President.” Any doubt who they had in mind? Ask yourself why? Then wonder if McCain was a party to the fraud. (For those new to the topic, John McCain was sued, and had many inconclusive congressional hearings about his eligibility because he was not born on our soil; he was born in Panama, Colon Hospital, in 1936. Even if he had been born on the Coco Bolo base, as some assert, it was not territory over which the U.S. has sovereignty. I sounds unfair, but no amendment to change Article II Section 1 has passed, in 25 attempts). It seems very likely that John McCain's ambition has enabled someone dangerous to our survival to act as president. From the concealment of any real proof of Obama’s eligibility, and the reality of his alien birth, some very shrewd people have planned very carefully, using the fact that no president was every suspected of failing the natural born citizen provision. In hindsight, one president, Chester Arthur, was discovered by Leo Donofrio to have concealed his past, having been born as well of a British subject; Arthur, like Obama, concealed his family documents and burned them just before his death.

283 posted on 08/01/2010 4:44:04 PM PDT by Spaulding
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