[SirJohnBarleycorn]

In 1965 she (Stanley Ann) says she married Lolo Soetoro on March 15, 1965 in Molokai Hawaii. But in a later passport renewal application marked P5 filed in 1981 she states she married him on March 5, 1964 in Maui, Hawaii.

This is very important.

If we take the March 1965 date, it PROVES that Barry was only FOUR years old when Lolo married Ann.

Under Indonesian law at that time, a child adopted by an Indonesian father under the age of FIVE automatically becomes an Indonesian citizenship without the need for naturalization.

The other important piece of information is that Ann was issued a passport in July 1965. This can only have been so that she could travel to Indonesia with her new husband.

When they went to Indonesia in 1965 did Lolo submit the proper form acknowledging that he had adopted Barry?

If so, Barry became an Indonesian citizen and was entitled to carry an Indonesian passport.

This chronology is supported by Barry's school registration, which lists him as an Indonesian citizen.

At the time Lolo Soetoro adopted little Barry and the family settled in Indonesia, it appears that they intended to live there permanently, and on Ann's passport renewal in 1968 it states she intended to remain in Indonesia "indefinitely".

They didn't foresee that there would be marital problems and that at a later time Ann would want to send Barry back to the US to live with her parents.

Given this new information today, it appears quite possible that Lolo adopted Barry when he was FOUR, and also when Lolo and Ann were in Indonesia in late July or at the beginning of August 1965 he could have reported the adoption to the Indonesian bureaucracy.

Why is it important that Barry appears to have become an Indonesian citizen as a minor?

Because later, after he had turned 18, I suspect that Barry (now calling himself Barack) realized that his Indonesian citizenship could allow him to obtain admission to an elite school like Columbia under their initiative to take more foreign students. Even under affirmative action, I doubt that Barry's reported lackluster scholarship at a middle of the road school like Occidental would have been enough to get him into a school at Columbia's level.

So, I suspect, he renewed his Indonesian passport, as an adult.

He probably did not realize that under US law as in effect at the time, by doing this himself as an adult, he LOST his US citizenship by OPERATION OF LAW, without anyone in the US State Department necessarily knowing anything about it.

That would give him a serious eligibility problem.

Hence, the cover-up. Stonewalling on any and all documents, so curious folks would not know just what in particular he is hiding.

[wideminded]

If we take the March 1965 date, it PROVES that Barry was only FOUR years old when Lolo married Ann.

Obama was only THREE in March 1965.

[lucysmom]

Under Indonesian law at that time, a child adopted by an Indonesian father under the age of FIVE automatically becomes an Indonesian citizenship without the need for naturalization.

Perfect theory except for one little detail - Indonesia didn't allow dual citizenship and the US does not permit a loose of citizenship for a minor child thingie.

[Raycpa]

If that is the explanation, then it would seem to me he is natural born despite not being a citizen.

[research99]

"In 1965 she (Stanley Ann) says she married Lolo Soetoro on March 15, 1965 in Molokai Hawaii. But in a later passport renewal application marked P5 filed in 1981 she states she married him on March 5, 1964 in Maui, Hawaii.

Verification of the marriage date is easy. Check the public index of marriage records held by the State of Hawaii for 1964-1965. No court action is required.

[LucyT]

# 102 is important.

Also # 107 , # 123 , # 142 , # 157.

Time permitting, there are other interesting comments. Just ignore the salaried PIA SPs.

salaried [ˈsælərɪd]
adj
earning or yielding a salary; a salaried worker, salaried employment

[Yaelle]

So, I suspect, he renewed his Indonesian passport, as an adult. He probably did not realize that under US law as in effect at the time, by doing this himself as an adult, he LOST his US citizenship by OPERATION OF LAW, without anyone in the US State Department necessarily knowing anything about it. That would give him a serious eligibility problem. Hence, the cover-up. Stonewalling on any and all documents, so curious folks would not know just what in particular he is hiding.

BINGO!!!

All the rest of the birther stuff is somewhat stupid. I believe THIS is the situation right here. HE IS INELIGIBLE TO BE PRESIDENT for the reason you said. He has, as an adult, declared he is NOT an American.

When he filled out his college application to get in as an Indonesian, he had to check NO on the box for the question, "Are you an American citizen?"

And he is now our President.

[justiceseeker93]

He probably did not realize at the time that by doing this (renewing his Indonesian passport) as an adult, he LOST his U. S. citizenship by OPERATION OF LAW.

That can only hold if he indeed had U.S. citizenship at that time, which is in itself questionable.

[rolling_stone]

Lolo left the states and left Stanley Ann and little Obie in hawaii on July 20, 1966 according to immigration documents just posted A hard to read copy of their marriage certificate is also in the file at page 100.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/35189898/Lolo-Soetoro-U-S-Records-Allen-v-DHS-State-and-Allen-v-USCIS-FOIA-Releases-Final-7-29-10