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Stanley Ann's passport records out
A place to ask questions to get the right answers ^ | July 31, 2010 | Apuzzo

Posted on 07/31/2010 6:25:47 PM PDT by jdirt

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To: theDentist

You can’t say that anymore!


141 posted on 08/01/2010 5:23:20 AM PDT by Genoa (Titus 2:13)
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To: jdirt

Many years ago I worked for a branch of the National Archives and Records Administration (at a Federal Records Center). Each of these branches kept (keep) an incredible volume of material.

Each center would have a master record of where sets of documents were maintained—say a few cubic feet of records, or, in the case of tax records, thousands of cubic feet. Within each set would be documents kept in their original filing order (numeric or alphabetic).

If a request from some quarter was made to get one of those documents, a paper form was completed in duplicate, which included the row in the center where the document set was located. We would go to the row, identify the box containing the document, find the box, locate the individual document, and leave one copy of the form, attach the other copy of the request form to the requested document and send it on its way.

It was cumbersome and not simply a matter of randomly going to a row and a box to find what you wanted. There was a methodical system.

All of this to say, for someone to have found out about Stanley Anne’s original passport record and then to go to the actual location to remove the record, it could only have been done with intention, and with assistance of someone at the National Archives who would have knowledge where the records were held.

And for multiple records of differing types (passport, birth certificate, adoption, marriage licenses, etc.), held by different levels of government to all conveniently disappear suggests a very clear pattern of conspiracy to deceive.

Those documents disappeared with the help of a fair number of people.

One thing the researcher should seek is a master list of requests for documents for a given period. While the actual document (the passport application), might not still exist, the request to pull that document at the Federal Records Center may still exist. That was the audit control feature to make sure you could account for where documents were if not in the original set of archived materials.


142 posted on 08/01/2010 5:50:54 AM PDT by comps4spice (Can we deport Congress?)
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To: giotto

If she got the original passport in late 1960 or early 1961, she was already pregnant. It was purposeful, not for some youthful adventure or family vacation.


143 posted on 08/01/2010 5:51:01 AM PDT by Jedidah
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To: for-q-clinton

He almost likely was. In Hawaii. By Lolo Soetoro.


144 posted on 08/01/2010 5:56:24 AM PDT by Jedidah
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To: for-q-clinton

He most likely was. In Hawaii. By Lolo Soetoro.


145 posted on 08/01/2010 5:56:45 AM PDT by Jedidah
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To: jdirt

Info already known but added here for reference:

Stanley Ann got her SS number

was issued in 535-40: Washington, 1959-1960


146 posted on 08/01/2010 5:58:48 AM PDT by Raycpa
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To: rolling_stone
Passport records do not include evidence of travel such as entrance/exit stamps, visas, residence permits, etc., since this information is entered into the passport book after it is issued.

But the APPLICATION does ask where and when you plan to travel, or at least it does now. And my recollection is that it did in the mid 70s when I applied for my first passport.

ML/NJ

147 posted on 08/01/2010 5:59:45 AM PDT by ml/nj
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To: autumnraine

According to the family story, they moved to Hawaii in 1960.


148 posted on 08/01/2010 6:00:03 AM PDT by Jedidah
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To: Genoa

I can, but now that I know her name, I won’t.


149 posted on 08/01/2010 6:16:25 AM PDT by theDentist (fybo; qwerty ergo typo : i type, therefore i misspelll)
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To: YankeeinOkieville

I had a passport of my own when I was 9 or 10. In 1959 or 60. Not on my parents’.


150 posted on 08/01/2010 6:34:08 AM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: svcw
What would be the consequences? Would he be removed and if so by whom?

Believe everything Obama put his signature to, while acting as President would be declared null/void/invalid. Think if he were removed; there would be a race war (which may be inevitable, irrespective of Obama's status and so a 'non-argument' really).

Think I would leave Obama in White House/with family; as a fully recognized 'poser' President; a 'figure head' and nothing more; while authentic Leadership straightened out the paper work until official Election .

In truth and more than likely; NOTHING would be done; until next election; where, then, what damage could be undone would be. Depending on 'who' is in White House, that is. . .

Certainly, this man as life-long 'poser'- is known to many in Washington and yet, all remain on the path, of least resistance. (Or so it appears; albeit we do have a few beginning to step - just barely - outside it.)

151 posted on 08/01/2010 6:34:08 AM PDT by cricket (Rikki-Tikki-Tavi - where are you. . .)
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To: rolling_stone

My passport photo was very ugly. It caught my lazy eye.


152 posted on 08/01/2010 6:35:21 AM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: Raycpa

Unless he was born in Kenya. And if 0bama Sr is listed as his father, he is also not a natural born citizen.

I don’t know where you get “he is natural born” out of anything.


153 posted on 08/01/2010 6:39:18 AM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: research99
I think that story is more false direction and misinformation type data put out by Obama to throw one off the true trail."

No question; Obama a protected poser.. That said, Obama narrative - and all it's players; is beginning to feel like a Jungle Book story. . .

All to say, where IS Rikki-Tikki-Tavi?

154 posted on 08/01/2010 6:49:17 AM PDT by cricket (Rikki-Tikki-Tavi - where are you. . .)
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To: STARWISE

The cover-up deepens and the mystery continues. How long before critical mass is reached? The truth always rises to the surface and it seems to be trickling up today with yet more cover-ups. Excellent observations by some FReepers in this thread.


155 posted on 08/01/2010 7:19:48 AM PDT by penelopesire (FOX NEWS TRIBAL PRINCESS)
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To: svcw; LucyT
Ok, lets say that he is not a citizen and it is proved beyond a shadow of a doubt, then what? What would be the consequences? Would he be removed and if so by whom?

In order to mount a successful attack on his status, you need to get someone who has legal standing; and they need to be represented by competent counsel who is prepared to force the factual argument and appeal adverse trial court rulings.

That generally means to commence a legal proceeding against some action he has taken which requires a President to implement.

One good example is the Military Officer who can object to an order. So far, we haven't seen anyone with adequate resources and competent counsel.

We are setting up for another good combination of facts. Appointing two extreme Liberals to the Supreme Court leaves you with the ability to forecast their votes on many issues. So in most cases, a party will not risk his case by seeking to disqualify them from the panel hearing the case--he knows how they will vote.

A Supreme Court Justice must be appointed by a "President"--these two ladies were not because the person who appointed them is not eligible to hold the office under the Constitution.

156 posted on 08/01/2010 7:38:48 AM PDT by David (...)
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To: getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL; hoosiermama; penelopesire; STARWISE; Liz; LucyT
Is it possible Stanley Ann was married three times, Obama-Soebarkah/Subarkah-Soetoro/Sutoro???

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Found this in the archives. May be relevant if Barry Soetoro applied at Columbia as an Indonesian.

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INDONESIAN STUDENTS SHARE KNOWLEDGE
Columbus Dispatch, The (OH) - Monday, September 11, 1989
Author: Eileen Dempsey, For The Dispatch

About 350 Indonesians studying in America had a chance to share what they have learned with their homeland at a conference over the weekend at Ohio University.

The national Indonesian Student Conference attracted students from across the nation as well as the Indonesian economic planning chief.

Mackmud (aka Machmud) Subarkah , director of the agency that is planning Indonesia's development for the next 25 years, was sent by Indonesian President Suharto to hear what the students had to offer.

The students’ 60 research papers and discussions focused on the role of science and technology in national development. The ideas presented will be summarized in a book that will be given to top planning officials in Indonesia, said Andre Burhanudin, an Ohio University business undergraduate.

“The students are trying to contribute to the future of their country,” said Burhanudin. “As an Indonesian, I want to help my country by giving my ideas.”

The conference was the first of its kind on a national scale. A university-produced video report about the conference aired on Indonesian National Television, which has a viewing audience of 100 million people.

After Suharto saw a 10-minute advance on the conference, which included interviews with the student organizers and university President Charles Ping plus a statement by Ambassador Abdul Rachman Ramly, he decided to send his economic planning chief here.

(snip)

157 posted on 08/01/2010 7:45:14 AM PDT by maggief
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To: maggief

158 posted on 08/01/2010 7:51:13 AM PDT by Liz
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To: maggief; getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL

Connecting your link to another one in the thread:

“On 9 July 2007, Indonesian prosecutors filed a civil lawsuit against former President Suharto, to recover state funds 0 m or £219 m, which allegedly disappeared from a scholarship fund, and a further .1 billion in damages.”

#69

Excellent info maggie.


159 posted on 08/01/2010 7:57:29 AM PDT by penelopesire (FOX NEWS TRIBAL PRINCESS)
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To: SirJohnBarleycorn
Did Barack, after turning 18, make an affirmative application to renew his Indonesian passport? That would appear sufficient under US law to cause him AT THAT TIME to lose his US citizenship, without the US state department necessarily even knowing about it.

That assumes he was adopted and had Indonesian citizenship to begin with.

160 posted on 08/01/2010 8:25:45 AM PDT by lucysmom (Trolling since 2001.)
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