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To: Uncle Ike
It's not a good analogy.

The Roman Empire fell because it had a hollowed-out middle class, and a hollowed-out military. Its founding principles of civic virtue were eroded by the pauperising effect of the public dole. Its wealth-producers were taxed to death, and state spending was completely out of control.

See for instance this excellent resource from the aptly named Cato institute

Big state socialism caused the fall of the Empire. It's no accident that centuries later the Roman fasces - the axe and stick bundle - were adopted as part of the symbology of Mussolini's socialist state.

A great many Roman Citizens were glad to see the Vandals, because it meant they were no longer prisoners of the state!

54 posted on 07/30/2010 10:30:51 AM PDT by agere_contra
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To: agere_contra
Finally, someone on FR who understands the dynamics of the Fall of the Roman Empire!

I am constantly dismayed by the lack of understanding of the root causes of that fall.
H.G. Wells has a great chapter or two on this subject in The Outline of History

Thank you for your post

57 posted on 07/30/2010 10:36:17 AM PDT by bill1952 (Choice is an illusion created between those with power - and those without)
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To: agere_contra

The Roman Empire fell because it had a hollowed-out middle class, and a hollowed-out military. Its founding principles of civic virtue were eroded by the pauperising effect of the public dole. Its wealth-producers were taxed to death, and state spending was completely out of control.


And all of these years I thought the Romans perished because of lead pipes for plumbing.


175 posted on 08/18/2010 11:58:52 PM PDT by cornfedcowboy (Trust in God, but empty the clip.)
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