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Sarah Palin ...What’s the big problem with refudiate? From Dictionary.com
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Posted on 07/19/2010 10:42:18 PM PDT by American Dream 246
Yesterday, Sarah Palin offered her opinion on a proposal to build a mosque in the vicinity of the September 11th site. Her words:
Ground Zero Mosque supporters: doesnt it stab you in the heart, as it does ours throughout the heartland? Peaceful Muslims, pls refudiate.
This tweet is a pundits dream, a perfect storm for mud-slinging, flak, fuss, hurrahs, miffs, polemics, rows, rumpuses, and maybe some discussion.
Dictionary.com only cares about one word in the former Alaska governors message. Refudiate. Go ahead and look up refudiate on our site. Or any dictionary Web site for that matter. Nada, zilch.
There are a few ways to look at Sarah Palins use of refudiate. Its clear that refute and repudiate are lurking in the background somewhere. One view is that its a non-word and sets a bad example for students of the English language. Palins response:
Refudiate, misunderestimate, wee-weed up. English is a living language. Shakespeare liked to coin new words too. Got to celebrate it!
Misunderestimate is a famous coinage by former President George W. Bush. Wee-weed up is a lexical creation by President Barack Obama. (Check out our previous take on a flub of Obamas.)
Say what you will about her invocation of Shakespeare, but Palin raises a classic debate among linguists and lexicographers (people who create dictionaries). Dictionaries have always faced the dilemma whether to be prescriptive or descriptive. Is it the job of a dictionary to direct how words should be used, spelled, or pronounced, or should a dictionary simply document the current usage of the language?
When Palin, Bush and Obama coined their respective terms, they added neologisms (new words) to the messy, changing phenomenon we agree to call English. Whether a word transforms from a novelty into a standard part of our lexicon is a mysterious joy beyond the power of any politician, editor or individual to predict.
Commenter Pete Buick deserves mention for pointing out a wonderful related term: malapropism, an act or habit of misusing words ridiculously, esp. by the confusion of words that are similar in sound. Its up to you if you consider refudiate a malapropism or a simple corrigendum.
Weigh in: Do you think refudiate will end up in the dictionary? What do you make of Palins defense?
TOPICS: Government; Health/Medicine; Military/Veterans; Politics
KEYWORDS: elections; islam; mosquee; obama; palin; refudiate
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To: American Dream 246
What other private citizen can launch a thousand columns with a Twitter or a blurb on her Facebook page? Anyone who thinks she won’t be the next president is dreaming.
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posted on
07/19/2010 11:00:20 PM PDT
by
2ndDivisionVet
(Soapbox & Ballot Box or Ammo Box.)
To: tioga
Your problem is googling it when this became an issue. Google is the the artibiter of truth. This word have been used before, long before Palin
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posted on
07/19/2010 11:00:20 PM PDT
by
4rcane
To: American Dream 246
BFD
It’s called a typo. Everybody makes them, especially when they type 40+ words per minute.
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posted on
07/19/2010 11:00:40 PM PDT
by
wastedyears
(The Founders revolted for less.)
To: shibumi
>My favorite if the word frutile.
It was coined (as best I can gather) by the writers of The Dick Van Dyke Show back in the early 60s.
The word combines fruitless and futile.<<
LOL — I will use that in a sentence this week! :)
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posted on
07/19/2010 11:01:14 PM PDT
by
freedumb2003
(The frog who accepts a ride from a scorpion should expect a sting and the phrase "it is my nature.")
To: RobRoy
I invented Jourbalism and Jourbalist. Can you spot where they came from?
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posted on
07/19/2010 11:02:47 PM PDT
by
2ndDivisionVet
(Soapbox & Ballot Box or Ammo Box.)
To: American Dream 246
Not sure about “refudiate” I’m thinking it’s too re-redundant.
I LOVE “misunderestimate” that really captures something that people do. In fact, aside from starting the war against radical islam (even if he’d never have said THAT) this word may be W’s lasting contribution.
Wee wee’d up I like also, because it’s like something my dad would have said.
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posted on
07/19/2010 11:03:25 PM PDT
by
jocon307
(It's the spending, stupid.)
To: freedumb2003
frutile.I thought that was gaily colored ceramic squares...:o)
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posted on
07/19/2010 11:03:28 PM PDT
by
Niteflyr
("The number one goal in life is to parent yourself" Carl Jung)
To: American Dream 246
She shouldn’t have deleted the Twitter post where she used this word, to replace it with the one about how Shakespeare made up new words.
There was no need for her to have had to hide that.
To: All
One of the comments (interesting 200 comments there) at dictionary.com:
Wilvus on July 19, 2010 at 1:14 pm
http://www.pbs.org/speak/words/trackthatword/ The Accidental Neologist
A person who creates new words, or makes a point of using them, is called a neologist. In his new book, Presidential Voices, author and noted linguist Allan Metcalf points out that to date, George W. Bush and Thomas Jefferson are front runners among presidential neologists. (Jefferson is said to have originated over 100 new words or phrases.) Metcalf believes whether we like it or not, were all accidental neologists the nature of American English makes it impossible not to be. When we add prefixes and suffixes such as an ism to a presidents name we become neologists.
Thomas Jefferson thought it was not only necessary but desirable to create new words and expressions. In an 1820 letter to his old friend John Adams, Jefferson wrote:
am a friend to neology. It is the only way to give to a language copiousness and euphony. Without it we should still be held to the vocabulary of Alfred or of Ulphilas [nearly a thousand years earlier]; and held to their state of science also: for I am sure they had no words which could have conveyed the ideas of oxygen, cotyledons, zoophytes, magnetism, electricity, hyaline, and thousands of others expressing ideas not then existing, nor of possible communication in the state of their language.
What a language has the French become since the date of their revolution, by the free introduction of new words! The most copious and eloquent in the living world; and equal to the Greek, had not that been regularly modifiable almost ad infinitum
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posted on
07/19/2010 11:06:51 PM PDT
by
American Dream 246
(Open your eyes. Freedom is not a one day fight. Enemies of Freedom are legion.)
To: 4rcane
Google is NOT the arbiter of truth I mean. If you google this word now, all you get is story on Palin or that its not a word. Believe me, Palin didn’t make up this word. Its been used before because I remember seeing that word in an article and I did a word search myself. It sent me to a link that talked about how refudiate is acceptable usage and it gave me some other words that is common usage as well. I wish I could find that link again. Of course, now that the media have made it an issue on Palin, theres no way you’ll find links that dispute their argument
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posted on
07/19/2010 11:07:43 PM PDT
by
4rcane
To: freedumb2003
I thought the word was used on TV. I recall a news segment on her using the word in the video. YouTube might have the clip by now.
To: American Dream 246
The word has been around for a while:
From Google Search:
The Lunatics of Terra - Google Books Result
John Sladek - 2005 - Fiction - 144 pages
'I refudiate that.' 'You what?' Jane felt suddenly cold all over. ... And how come he uses the word "refudiate" on TV and you use it five minutes later? ...
books.google.com/books?isbn=1587154102...
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Anyone care to validate or
refudiate the "just another car" rumor? Thanks David 88 325ic http://e-opolis.net/325i/. Response: Don't forget, you're talking
...bmwauto.ottawa.on.ca/bmw.../just-another-car-in-europe-793176.html - Cached
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13 posts - 10 authors - Last post: Sep 9, 2009
Can you
refudiate it? That is why I was asking.
Refudiate it with the facts instead of getting upset. And if you don't like my posts then
...www.valkyrieforum.com/bbs/index.php?topic=8187.0 - Cached
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And you appear to be a close minded fuckwit..... ah I knew you couldn't
refudiate my statement
.... Ahhh so "
refudiate" is a word in your world..sorry.
...phorums.com.au/archive/index.php/t-237760-p-2.html - Cached
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20 posts - 10 authors - Last post: Oct 15, 2007
Write that book and print that picture in it and it is pretty hard to
refudiate. Print an interview and it muddies the water,"
...www.kenpotalk.com/forum/showthread.php?319-Chow-s...in... - Cached
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10 posts - 5 authors - Last post: Jan 4
... because if you were too ignorant of the fact that the Intel Experts
refudiate your claim, that it was no used to provide them to you?
...www.politicalforum.com/.../108726-ok-torture-someone-who-turns-out-innocent-5.html - Cached
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Jun 28, 2010
... "Words are coined on the spot, like
refudiate, and regular words are used in ways that make sense only in context."(http://nyti.ms/akdZsN)
...twitter.com/factperday - Cached
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posted on
07/19/2010 11:09:41 PM PDT
by
P-Marlowe
(LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
To: American Dream 246
Okay, since others have confessed, I will add my malapropism. In college I used the word "stypified" in a written report. (I don't know, I guess I was too lazy to use stipulated AND typified:)
The professor stypified stipulated that there was no such word.
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posted on
07/19/2010 11:10:14 PM PDT
by
Clink
(Conservatives believe it when they see it. Liberals see it when they believe it.)
To: 2ndDivisionVet
What other private citizen can launch a thousand columns with a Twitter or a blurb on her Facebook page? Anyone who thinks she wont be the next president is dreaming.
Absolutely agree! Even the Guardian in UK has a full column about Sarah and "The" word... She is a pure genius! If she wanted to make sure her message would go across, she surely succeded...ahah...dear Sarah. She is so good! Even if it was accidental. It's hilarious how these libs are so stupid to fall for it again. Hope they'll keep on falling for it. Name recognition..
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posted on
07/19/2010 11:10:28 PM PDT
by
American Dream 246
(Open your eyes. Freedom is not a one day fight. Enemies of Freedom are legion.)
To: freedumb2003
I have made it part of my regular lexiconography. It’s amazing how many people will hear a soundlet like that (I have many such that I use in everydate speech) and assumate that it is really a word, and that it’s their vocabularation that is deficident.
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posted on
07/19/2010 11:11:37 PM PDT
by
shibumi
(But we are becoming who we might yet be...)
To: American Dream 246
All I can say is “corpseman”...why don’t you haters go over to an Obama blog and give him hell for that one??
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posted on
07/19/2010 11:14:47 PM PDT
by
Niteflyr
("The number one goal in life is to parent yourself" Carl Jung)
To: American Dream 246
“Repudiate” is a word and I am just as likely to assume that the person who made this claim up initially just misspelled what she said. So the person who heard this is claiming that they heard a “fu” rather than a “pu”? This is really trivial stuff, even if it is true.
To: Niteflyr
And what about the 57 states...not a word but still - the libs are still looking for the few states missing just to make sure they can agree with the one..ah..it’s getting frankly hilarious!
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posted on
07/19/2010 11:17:09 PM PDT
by
American Dream 246
(Open your eyes. Freedom is not a one day fight. Enemies of Freedom are legion.)
To: American Dream 246
And what about the 57 states...not a word It's about beating up on Sarah Palin...the point of contention has nothing to do with it...
and I'm still looking for my "3000 percent reduction" in my insurance premiums at work also...
Sarah's speech is impeccable compared to Barry the Magnificent...
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posted on
07/19/2010 11:20:56 PM PDT
by
Niteflyr
("The number one goal in life is to parent yourself" Carl Jung)
To: Niteflyr
From an MSNBC Website two years ago:
Rowena, VA
I call on Senator McCain and Gov. Palin to immediately and personally refudiate and appologize to Senator Obama for all they has said over the past week or so that has cause most of America to agree with John Lewis. The supporters at McCain/Palin's rally took me back to those days in the 60's as they was shouting "terrorist", "kill him". I watched that rally just shaking my head, looking at the anger and disposition of his supporters thinking "OMG" (oh my God) why doesn't Gov. Palin stop this but she just laughed and aggitated it further. Senator Obama can respond to this news release as he desires but Mr. John Lewis was correct in his observations.
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posted on
07/19/2010 11:24:31 PM PDT
by
P-Marlowe
(LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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