[Persevero]

“When any action results in harm to another there are ample criminal and civil remedies already in place to address them.”

I know.

The problem is, when you deliberately make yourself:

1. irrational
2. unresponsive
3. delusional
4. physically impaired
5. uninhibited by your usual moral codes

then you have deliberately made yourself far, far more likely to harm another person, or, neglect another person who is legitimately dependent upon you.

Yes, we could incarcerate the jackoff who, after smoking his ganja for a few months, decided we did something terrible to his mother (?) and broke in to our home, doing violent bloody assault while pregnant me hid with my 3 year old in the bedroom, leaving him alone in there when necessary to help my husband.

But I think that is putting the cart way too far after the horse. We all know pot makes you paranoid. Paranoid people do not behave rationally. So I think it should be illegal to make yourself paranoid.

We know the usual effects of all the recreational drugs. They aren’t hard to figure out.

Sometimes, people get crazy or irrational or comatose through no effort of their own. But when they do it to themselves on purpose, I say it’s criminal. Because we are all living here and are in one degree or another subject to each others’ actions or lack of actions.

Punishing the man who almost murdered us because he made himself crazy on benign old marijuana might be enough for you, but it’s not enough for me. I prefer to see potheads relieved of their pot, and imprisoned until they are good and rid of it. Junkies of all kinds should be treated the same way, IMO. And everyone who produces or distributes.

[aruanan]

The problem is, when you deliberately make yourself:

1. irrational
2. unresponsive
3. delusional
4. physically impaired
5. uninhibited by your usual moral codes

then you have deliberately made yourself far, far more likely to harm another person, or, neglect another person who is legitimately dependent upon you.

But how many people deliberately make themselves liberal Democrats?

[TigersEye]

But I think that is putting the cart way too far after the horse.

You either believe in individual liberty or you don't. That's the bottom line.

We all know pot makes you paranoid.

Pot smokers don't know that. At least none that I've ever met. Teenagers who are engaged in breaking laws get paranoid I am sure.

We know the usual effects of all the recreational drugs. They aren’t hard to figure out.

Such as the very common aggressiveness and violence exhibited by consumers of alcohol. It doesn't seem to be too much of a problem to deal with that through appropriate criminal sanctions on assault and battery and civil remedies for property damage though. Of course we could apply your paranoid and irrational standard of justice to those problems as well and go back to alcohol prohibition. It was emotionally satisfying to its supporters back in the day too.

[tacticalogic]

Yes, we could incarcerate the jackoff who, after smoking his ganja for a few months, decided we did something terrible to his mother (?) and broke in to our home, doing violent bloody assault while pregnant me hid with my 3 year old in the bedroom, leaving him alone in there when necessary to help my husband.

Or you could have just shot him.

[TigersEye]

Punishing the man who almost murdered us because he made himself crazy on benign old marijuana (alcohol, Islam, Rx drugs, steroids ... why leave out the many other causes of psychosis?) might be enough for you, but it’s not enough for me.