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Rep. Mark Kirk Should Bow Out of Illinois U.S. Senate Race
RFFM.org ^ | June 14, 2010 | Daniel T. Zanoza

Posted on 06/14/2010 12:27:53 PM PDT by Daniel T. Zanoza

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To: Daniel T. Zanoza

Kirk should drop out right after Blumenthal.


21 posted on 06/14/2010 1:13:12 PM PDT by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: GonzoGOP; pgkdan

Rep. Kirk (my congressman) won the primary because he was endorsed by many moderate GOP leaders, including members of the IL GOP State Central Committee and county party chairmen. Too many republican primary voters listened to those leaders and didn’t research the candidates. If they researched the candidates, they would have known that Kirk is more liberal than many Democrats.


22 posted on 06/14/2010 1:21:33 PM PDT by PhilCollins
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To: 1010RD; fieldmarshaldj
From the article:

I do not ascribe to the "Republican right or wrong" mantra.

Neither do I and evidently, I'm not alone.

23 posted on 06/14/2010 1:36:51 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (No Romney,No Mark Kirk (Illinois), not now, not ever!)
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To: Osage Orange
So the ideas of Kirk bow out and Giannoulias keep this seat in Democrat column is the best solution? Do want to keep Washington DC being operate like a bunch of Chicago thug is good for our nation? Answer anyone?
24 posted on 06/14/2010 1:55:33 PM PDT by dhuynh73 (Reagan Country)
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To: Daniel T. Zanoza

Kirk and the scumbag Illinois GOP must not be rewarded. I hope the rat - - whoever it is - - creams him so somebody decent can step up in six years. Kirk is a Jeffords/Chafee/Specter waiting to happen. I’d rather be knifed in the face than stabbed in the back.


25 posted on 06/14/2010 2:00:42 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: dhuynh73
Kirk is a Chicago thug. He's from the same corrupt outfit as Zero. Too many folks outside (and sadly, inside) IL don't realize that. This isn't Republican vs. Democrat, this is a race between two corrupt insider "Combiners." National Republicans gain nothing with Kirk's election except a boatload of heartburn and apostasy and he will give cover to Zero's agenda giving it the fake veneer of "bipartisanship." He is far more dangerous than openly electing the crooked rodent Alexi G., who will probably be going to prison before long and would cause the Dems far more embarrassment.
26 posted on 06/14/2010 2:05:44 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Amber Lamps !"~~)
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To: Daniel T. Zanoza
Some will say I am ignoring the proverbial elephant sitting in the corner concerning questions surrounding Kirk's sexual orientation. However, I will leave that issue to others to discuss

Thanks for dragging that decrepit skeleton out of the closet and letting it fester there.

I think the odds of Kirk "dropping out" because you disapprove of him is about 0.000000 %

27 posted on 06/14/2010 2:51:28 PM PDT by Nonstatist
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To: Graybeard58; fieldmarshaldj
I'm not alone.

That's the problem.

The failure of conservatives to think strategically has been and potentially will be very costly to America.

The Republican leadership has done yeoman's work holding it together against Obama's agenda. That it is not recognized is sad.

The consequence of not thinking strategicaly will be more liberalism, more Obamanomics, more socialist/communist/fascist control of our country not less.

28 posted on 06/14/2010 3:52:17 PM PDT by 1010RD (First Do No Harm)
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To: Daniel T. Zanoza

I think I read a piece the other day stating that Kirk is a closet Gay. Is there any truth in that charge???????


29 posted on 06/14/2010 3:57:09 PM PDT by Captain Peter Blood
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To: Captain Peter Blood
No truth at all about Kirk being a "closet gay", He's openly queer.
30 posted on 06/14/2010 4:07:05 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (No Romney,No Mark Kirk (Illinois), not now, not ever!)
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To: 1010RD

If Kirk is elected, he will be the next Specter.


31 posted on 06/14/2010 4:08:07 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (No Romney,No Mark Kirk (Illinois), not now, not ever!)
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To: Graybeard58

More like Jeffords, but he’ll stick around long enough to cripple the GOP and Conservatism.


32 posted on 06/14/2010 4:37:06 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Amber Lamps !"~~)
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To: Graybeard58

Possibly. The one certain thing is if Alexi wins we’ll have a mobster for a Senator and a continuing Democratic Senate.

Pick your poison wisely.


33 posted on 06/14/2010 4:43:37 PM PDT by 1010RD (First Do No Harm)
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To: fieldmarshaldj; Lurker; Daniel T. Zanoza; Impy; PhilCollins; Graybeard58; Nonstatist
The argument that “if Illinois Republicans wanted a conservative, they would have nominated one” is a red herring. Check the election history of the last couple U.S. Senate primaries in Illinois. Until recently, the conservative outsider nearly always won over the establishment backed candidate. Going back to ‘96 (Al Salvi vs. Bob Kustra), ‘98 (Peter Fitzgerald vs. Loleta Dickerson), ‘02 (Jim Durkin vs. Hastert-backed Jim Oberweis, running as a pro-choice “moderate” back then), ‘04 ( Jack Ryan vs. Jim Oberweis & a whole bunch of other also-runs, with the “moderate”, General John Borling, in 5th place).

This changed the last two election cycles because the establishment changed the game. Sick of losing to the GOP grassroots in hotly contested primaries, they decided to rig the game and clear the field for the RINO.

In 2008 and 2010 all the leading party elites endorsed the “chosen” RINO from the moment he announced, and threatened and bullied any viable conservative with a base and money out of the race to “clear the field” of everyone but little known up-and-comers they couldn't blackmail. In both 2008 and 2010, they sent out bulk emails, snail mail, and web ads during the primary implying their anointed RINO was the ONLY Republican candidate running against the scary Democrat (and implying he had already won the nomination), conning conservatives into donating to the RINO in the primary under false pretenses. The state party officials openly lent party resources to the anointed RINO and took care of the statewide infrastructure of his candidacy, making sure he stayed on script and keeping him the hell away from any open forums where he would have to debate his primary challengers or discuss his platform to conservatives.

Again, this only started in 2008. Prior to 2008, the establishment RINO had to appear at public forums and debate his opponents, and run his campaign with his own resources.

Given the circumstances of these crooked “primaries”, it's not surprising that “Illinois Republican voters” suddenly started nominating RINOs.

Conservatives always share some of the blame in that the conservative base here is hopelessly fractured and often backs multiple candidates in a primary, but even in a one-and-one race, we're handicapped by the combine.

In fact, the ONLY reason we now have a decent conservative as our nominee for Governor is the establishment focused so much time on clearing the playing field for Kirk's Senate bid that they neglected to intervene in the Governor's race and decide on a consensus combiner. They split their support among three establishment-approved choices (State Senator Kirk Dillard, IL GOP Chairman Andy McKenna, former Att. Gen. Jim Ryan) Our side was just as fractured and voted for three different conservative outsiders (Bill Brady, Dan Proft, Adam Andrejewski). Brady was the only downstate candidate and won by 500 votes thanks to a regional advantage. I'll be the first to admit I voted and campaigned for Brady but he wasn't expected to be the nominee and won via a fluke. Fortunately, he's now extremely likely to be our next Governor.

In fact, Brady's double-digit lead proves once again that all the pro-RINO party officials and their apologists claiming that Kirk-style RINOs are “the best we can get” in Illinois are wrong. You don't “have to” run to the left of many card-carrying Democrats to be “electable” in this state. Illinois Republicans may be hopelessly inept in this state and always lose to the Chicago machine, but that doesn't prove the voters “want” socialism.

Kirk is out-of-touch with mainstream American values, and he's proven to be a liar and fraud to boot. If he had any dignity, he's withdraw from the race.

34 posted on 06/14/2010 5:22:40 PM PDT by BillyBoy (Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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To: fieldmarshaldj; BillyBoy; chicagolady; Impy
Fox News literally just had a story that the Pentagon twice warned Kirk to not do political work while on active duty.

If Fox is going after him you know he is toast!

How the hell do we get a replacement (NO THIRD PARTY!!!). Is there any stature for recall? I don't know the rules and regulations of the combine but this guy is starting to get sleazier by the day.

Once again Billy and Fieldmarshaldj thank you both for opening my eyes, from now on I am going to try and be more informed before jumping on a bandwagon.

35 posted on 06/15/2010 7:13:31 AM PDT by Dengar01 (Go Blackhawks!!!)
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To: Dengar01; BillyBoy

All I can suggest is to raise hell with GOP elected officials and party officials and demand pressure be brought to have Kirk step down or be forced out.


36 posted on 06/15/2010 9:52:20 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Amber Lamps !"~~)
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To: Dengar01; BillyBoy; chicagolady

If you want Rep. Kirk to drop out, please email all 19 members of the IL GOP State Central Committee and ask them to ask him to drop out of the race. The SCC would vote on who would replace Kirk, on the ballot. That’s how Alan Keyes was chosen, in 2004, but the majority of the SCC has been replaced, since then. No, Illinois doesn’t have recall elections.

If Kirk drops out, I hope that Rep. Roskam would run. If that happens, State Sen. Millner should run for Roskam’s House seat.


37 posted on 06/15/2010 10:14:00 AM PDT by PhilCollins
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To: PhilCollins

Roskam would be the best choice, how do we get ahold of these people? I’m worried you’d have to bribe them since that’s the “Chicago way”.


38 posted on 06/15/2010 12:50:49 PM PDT by Dengar01 (Go Blackhawks!!!)
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To: Dengar01

I can’t find their email addresses. If you use this link, you can find all of their names and addresses:
http://www.weareillinois.org/learn/resources.aspx


39 posted on 06/15/2010 1:04:16 PM PDT by PhilCollins
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To: Dengar01; fieldmarshaldj; BillyBoy; AuH2ORepublican; randita

We’re lucky that GOP prospects are up in places like WA and CT cause Mark Kirk is not going to be part of a possible GOP majority. Unless he’s forced out of the race and replaced I think the mob banker will win.

New poll (PPP) has the Green party guy at 14%. Like in the 2006 GUV race it appears they are drawing protest support from both sides.


40 posted on 06/16/2010 10:30:39 AM PDT by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN | NO "INDIVIDUAL MANDATE"!!!!!!!)
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