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To: WildHighlander57

I’d want to do some real checking. That article was mostly people saying what they thought. I’ve learned from experience that you don’t trust Hawaiian officials when they speak off-the-record about what they think. You have to look at the laws themselves and do official requests for documents. Then, and only then, will you possibly get the truth.

For instance, voter registration happens all the time, not just during an election. In fact, the voter registration would get heavier BEFORE the election. So this article trying to say that registration wouldn’t have been happening because the election hadn’t been held yet is just rot.

And the department in question would make a huge difference as to what a person could get access to. Of course the HDOH has the BC’s. But a government official who needs to see BC’s in the process of enacting a transaction on behalf of someone is authorized to see the birth certificates.

If birth certificates were required to document citizenship for voter registration, I have no doubts that SOMEBODY there had access to BC’s - contradicting what the people who work there are trying to say (off-the-record, of course). Somebody should ask them whether they do any verification of eligibility for registering voters there, and see if their answer gets a little more “nuanced”. This taking the bureaucrats at their word without making a legal request (that they can’t lie on) or looking up the laws is shoddy work.

I don’t have the time right now, but somebody should check the voter registration statutes and see what is involved in verifying eligibility to be a voter. That would tell us a heckuva lot more than just asking a Hawaii bureaucrat, especially after so many examples where HI officials have lied to the press only to be found out through official UIPA requests by people a little more concerned with accuracy than the press is.


407 posted on 06/11/2010 6:23:56 AM PDT by butterdezillion (.)
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To: butterdezillion

Okay. I took the time (probably shouldn’t have). It’s at http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrscurrent/Vol01_Ch0001-0042F/HRS0011/HRS_0011-0015.htm . Normally the self-subscribing oath is enough documentation but if the application is contested the election official can request additional proof of the claims on the voter registration application.


411 posted on 06/11/2010 6:35:09 AM PDT by butterdezillion (.)
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To: butterdezillion

Good thinking.

Who will help us?

Would $1,000 get any investigation done, I mean by hiring someone in Hawaii, a detective that’s right a private detective !!!

$5,000?

50 FReepers kick in? I would.

500 FReepers?


422 posted on 06/11/2010 10:33:50 AM PDT by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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