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US Soldiers in Afghanistan Not Allowed Rounds in Chamber
Michael Yon ^ | 5/19/2010 | Michael Yon

Posted on 05/19/2010 8:16:47 AM PDT by FReepaholic

From Michael Yon's Facebook page:

An American soldier emailed from Afghanistan saying that his unit has been ordered to patrol with no round in the chamber.

http://www.facebook.com/MichaelYonFanPage/posts/123097424378854


TOPICS: Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; banglist; michael; military; yon
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To: FReepaholic

This is the kind of stupidity that leads to fragging.
No joke.


41 posted on 05/19/2010 10:39:36 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: FReepaholic

Just to be clear, “no round in the chamber” doesn’t mean the magazine isn’t full, right? Need more information. The only conceivable purpose of such an order (no round in chamber) would be to slow down any response a soldier might have to an ambush. ..Which makes no sense on the face of it.


42 posted on 05/19/2010 10:43:13 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: FReepaholic

Why not just make them carry in Condition 4 while they are at it!

Simply Unbelievable!


43 posted on 05/19/2010 10:47:33 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Thinking of using 911 for protection? Google "Brittany Zimmerman")
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To: FReepaholic

As an officer serving in Afghanistan, if one of my men violated this order, I would be duty bound to praise his readiness to deal with emerging situations. [Note: I am only an “officer serving in Afghanistan” by the Blumenthal standard. In actual fact, my service ended several years ago, but this is the Obama generation so the truth doesn’t have to influence my words.] A good officer distinguishes between orders he doesn’t understand but that could be reasonable and orders that he understands perfectly well and knows cannot be reasonable. My duty to the Constitution of the United States extended to loyalty to my men and my country but not quite far enough that it included blind loyalty to a Community-Organizer-in-Chief who wanted to “send a message” at the risk of my men’s lives.


44 posted on 05/19/2010 11:03:11 AM PDT by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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To: FReepaholic

Was it mentioned what type of unit this soldier is in or what his MOS/SSI is?

If this is an infantryman or a SOF trooper, this is totally unacceptable. However, if this is a member of a support unit, his CO may have good reason for this directive.

Lately, Michael Yon has posted some things which make you wonder about his present state-of-mind. (See blackfive.net for a long discussion of his “problems”.) Several military sites have ceased their praise of him.


45 posted on 05/19/2010 11:15:01 AM PDT by SOLTC
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To: Travis McGee

And if I had not done those things that I needed to do to ensure that my troops did not get shot, either by friendly or unfriendly troops, then I would have been the knucklehead. You sound like some genius on the division staff.


46 posted on 05/19/2010 11:47:52 AM PDT by centurion316
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To: SOLTC

good question.

were the cooks and clerks in camp told not to chamber a round?

or

Was it infantrymen on patrol?


47 posted on 05/19/2010 12:09:06 PM PDT by lack-of-trust
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To: centurion316

It’s you who had so little confidence in your men that you called them knuckleheads, and worried so much about ADs/NDs that you agreed it was best they not have chambered rounds ON PATROL.

That speaks for itself.


48 posted on 05/19/2010 12:25:04 PM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: Travis McGee

Write about it in your next novel


49 posted on 05/19/2010 12:26:44 PM PDT by centurion316
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To: centurion316

I will. And you’ll still remember your troops as knuckleheads that you didn’t trust to carry chambered rounds ON PATROL.


50 posted on 05/19/2010 12:29:46 PM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: Travis McGee

And the next time I’m on patrol, I will decide who chambers rounds and when, whose weapons point which direction when, who is responsible for what when and will make sure that every man knows what he is supposed to do, when. I suspect that you did the same thing.


51 posted on 05/19/2010 12:34:32 PM PDT by centurion316
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To: Pollster1

Praise the LORD for officers like you!


52 posted on 05/19/2010 2:27:57 PM PDT by scott7278 ("...I have not changed Congress and how it operates the way I would have liked." BHO)
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To: scott7278

Former.


53 posted on 05/19/2010 2:42:20 PM PDT by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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To: Pollster1

Thank you for your service!


54 posted on 05/19/2010 2:45:12 PM PDT by scott7278 ("...I have not changed Congress and how it operates the way I would have liked." BHO)
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To: scott7278

It was my duty, and a pleasure.


55 posted on 05/19/2010 2:48:33 PM PDT by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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To: FatherofFive
"So they all get the new Yellow Cross medal?"

I've heard its called the Obama Double Cross.

56 posted on 05/20/2010 4:18:18 PM PDT by Natural Law
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