I don’t think Obama claims the proof has been destroyed. And the HDOH hasn’t said they destroyed his actual BC; in fact they’ve actually said they have it. They’ve also indirectly said that the Factcheck COLB is forged and what they have for Obama doesn’t count as prima facie evidence.
So you’re exactly right when you say the burden of proof is on Obama. Because Hawaii’s documents aren’t prima facie evidence, Obama would have to prove the Hawaii birth claim over and above the Kenyan birth claims if the issue was ever taken up by a court.
That’s why he’s fighting so hard to keep any court from considering it - even to the point of asking Judge Carter to note the Factcheck COLB, which we know is a forgery by the HDOH’s own admissions.
“They’ve also indirectly said that the Factcheck COLB is forged and what they have for Obama doesn’t count as prima facie evidence.”
Thats because they will not give state legitimacy to a photo of a COLB. You can’t prove anything from a photo, and they made the right call in refusing to say that it was legit. They said they could not say that it was legitimate, and they are correct.
This does NOT mean HDOH it is a fraud. It means they cannot verify that what is pictured in the photos is legit, and no one else can say yea or nay either. It is one of the few calls in all this I think Hawaii made correctly.
>>> Obama would have to prove the Hawaii birth claim over and above the Kenyan birth claims if the issue was ever taken up by a court.
I think the FACT that his father wasn’t a citizen makes the whole argument over place of birth moot as far as eligibility goes.... However, if we want to go further into proving that he is actually an illegal alien, then place of birth is relevant.