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A ‘Keener’ Whiff of Revolution
Right Side News ^ | April 28, 2010 | Timothy Baldwin, J.D.

Posted on 04/28/2010 11:15:45 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: stephenjohnbanker
The question for many states is "are you willing to allow the theft of your state and your families dispossession to occur successfully" because your state has a hostile minority who are block voting leftists?

If a large number answer "NO" then the revolution will occur in those states too, only it will be far uglier, as it will entail ethnic cleansing.

This is from the blog "All Other Persons".

TABLE 1: White Vote for Obama Outside the South

State Obama Share White Vote % State Winner

NON-SOUTH 49.7 Alaska 32 McCain
Arizona 40 McCain
California 52 Obama
Colorado 55 Obama
Connecticut 51 Obama
D.C. 86 Obama
Delaware 53 Obama
Hawaii 70 Obama
Idaho 33 McCain
Illinois 51 Obama
Indiana 45 Obama
Iowa 51 Obama
Kansas 40 McCain
Maine 58 Obama
Maryland 49 Obama
Massachusetts 57 Obama
Michigan 51 Obama
Minnesota 53 Obama
Missouri 42 McCain
Montana 45 McCain
Nebraska 39 McCain
Nevada 45 Obama
New Hampshire 54 Obama
New Jersey 49 Obama
New Mexico 42 Obama
New York 52 Obama
North Dakota 42 McCain
Ohio 46 Obama
Oregon 60 Obama
Pennsylvania 48 Obama
Rhode Island 58 Obama
South Dakota 41 McCain
Utah 31 McCain
Vermont 68 Obama
Washington 59 Obama
West Virginia 41 McCain
Wisconsin 54 Obama
Wyoming 32 McCain

TABLE 2: White Vote for Obama in the South

State Obama Share White Vote % State Winner

SOUTH 30.2
Alabama 10 McCain
Arkansas 30 McCain
Florida 42 Obama
Georgia 23 McCain
Kentucky 36 McCain
Louisiana 14 McCain
Mississippi 11 McCain
North Carolina 35 Obama
Oklahoma 29 McCain
South Carolina 26 McCain
Tennessee 34 McCain
Texas 26 McCain
Virginia 39 Obama

The states where a majority of Whites voted for McCain and McCain won are those mostly likely to fit the authors criteria for being in Rebellion eventually. The states where a majority of Whites voted for Obama and Obama won are those most like to be happy with the path the USA is on.

The states where a majority of whites (who are the majority of every state) voted for McCain but Obama won are those most likely to suffer internal conflict.

I would consider Florida, Virginia and New Mexico to be the most divided states and likely to suffer internal conflict and possible county-by-county secession in the event of a USSR dissolution type event in the USA.

The chart above shows the case of Southern Secession pretty clearly.

The bolded states are the states where a large hostile minority is working against the interests of the majority group (in conjunction with white libs) to pervert the government of the state towards leftism. This same leftism once imposed delivers many benefits to the hostile minority.

This is straight out of Chittem 101. Situations like this are unnatural. Often to minorities in such cases are already conveniently self-segregated into a specific city, inner city, or region of the state.

To believe that a majority of of the majority will allow them selves to be dispossessed of their state by a hostile block-voting minority is to ignore history. Many people are already aware of these demographic issues.

The states where a majority of Whites voted for McCain and McCain won are those mostly likely to fit the authors criteria for being in Rebellion eventually. The states where a majority of Whites voted for Obama and Obama won are those most like to be happy with the path the USA is on.

The states where a majority of whites (who are the majority of every state) voter for McCain but Obama won are those most likely to suffer internal conflict.

41 posted on 04/29/2010 7:18:57 AM PDT by Jack Black ( Whatever is left of American patriotism is now identical with counter-revolution.)
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To: Jack Black; Travis McGee; All

A most informative post. I agree with everything you said.

Thank you.


42 posted on 04/29/2010 7:36:35 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops....and vote out the RINOS!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

http://www.suntimes.com/news/politics/2215120,CST-NWS-gun29.article#

Illinois Legislature backs Chicago Mayor Daley’s effort to crack down on gun violence

April 29, 2010

BY FRAN SPIELMAN City Hall Reporter

Unlawful use of gun with no FOID would require prison time

“We don’t realize the devastation. Every time someone carries a loaded weapon, they’re gonna use it sometime. And they’re gonna use it on an innocent person,” Daley said.


43 posted on 04/29/2010 7:58:20 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: KeyLargo

““We don’t realize the devastation. Every time someone carries a loaded weapon, they’re gonna use it sometime. And they’re gonna use it on an innocent person,” Daley said.”

I have carried for 6 years, and never used it.

Of course, if Daley lived next door.............. ;-)


44 posted on 04/29/2010 8:04:44 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops....and vote out the RINOS!)
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To: rarestia

>When do we say, “That’s it!”?

Two of my ‘hard-lines’ are: gun-registry/-control/-confiscation and amnesty.


45 posted on 04/29/2010 8:27:32 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker; wolfcreek; I Buried My Guns; Travis McGee; Chode; 2ndDivisionVet; GYL2; ...

>I am an Arizonan now. Arizona and Texas would be allies for sure!

If New Mexico were to be in that group it would be a nice geographic block. The problem with New Mexico [and I say this as a citizen of the state] is the same as the federal government: Contradictions in law [mainly between the superior Constitution and the lesser ‘statute’ laws] are exploited such that the government can put pressure on anyone regardless of their honest-guilt/-innocence because they can contend that “they broke the law.”

{As Ayn Rand wrote: There’s no way to rule innocent men. The only power government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren’t enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws.}

Let me give you a perfect example.
The New Mexico State Constitution says, in Section 6 of Article II:
No law shall abridge the right of the citizen
to keep and bear arms for security and
defense, for lawful hunting and recreational
use and for other lawful purposes, but nothing
herein shall be held to permit the carrying
of concealed weapons. No municipality
or county shall regulate, in any way, an incident
of the right to keep and bear arms.

Yet there exists several state statutes that DO abridge the right to keep and bear arms for defense; most especially 30-7-2.4, which you can read here: http://www.conwaygreene.com/nmsu/lpext.dll?f=FifLink&t=document-frame.htm&l=query&iid=66b036fd.eebbfe6.0.0&q=%5BGroup%20%2730-7-2.4%27%5D

As you can plainly see, this law flat-out contradicts the superior State Constitution. If I were to go on campus using my right to open carry, how much would you bet that I would be arrested for violation of that statute? Prosecuted? And, here’s the ‘biggy’, would it be winnable in a state’s court of law?

I’m actually tempted to try it; I will, of course, be in the right, legally speaking. There is NO ambiguity in the State Constitution regarding the matter.


46 posted on 04/29/2010 8:54:05 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: OneWingedShark
what is your line in the sand Almost deserves its own thread..

Gun Confiscation seems inadequate. The entire country could be in ruins, but if you still have your guns it's ok?

It's a good question. I don't have a good answer.

47 posted on 04/29/2010 8:55:37 AM PDT by Jack Black ( Whatever is left of American patriotism is now identical with counter-revolution.)
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To: Jack Black

>what is your line in the sand Almost deserves its own thread..

Indeed, I may write up an article and post it.

>Gun Confiscation seems inadequate. The entire country could be in ruins, but if you still have your guns it’s ok?

Well, first off, if you have a gun [and ammo] you can more easily defend yourself; also it may come in handy for hunting. Second, I only said that they were two of my hard-lines... not that they were my only two hard-lines.

>It’s a good question. I don’t have a good answer.

Maybe that’s what all the “line in the sand” posts are... people trying to figure out the answer to where their lines should be... or it could be that they’re “all talk and no substance.”


48 posted on 04/29/2010 9:00:45 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Natural Born 54
I wonder if someone could keep track of the states that are likely to buck the Feds and be bastions of freedom?

Something like what you're describing has already been done. It's an exhaustive, and comprehensive study of the levels of freedom in the 50 states, in a host of categories. It gives individual states' ratings in each of these categories, and an overall freedom rating.

It's called Freedom In The 50 States: An index of personal and economic freedom. It was authored by William Ruger and Jason Sorens of the Mercatus Center of George Mason University.

49 posted on 04/29/2010 9:39:19 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

Hi Windflier -

Thanks for this. I really didn’t want to do all that work!


50 posted on 04/29/2010 9:58:31 AM PDT by Natural Born 54 (FUBO x 10)
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To: Windflier

From the resource you provided, here are best and worst:

Most Freedom: TX, AZ, CO, ID, ND, SD, MO, TN, VA, NH
Least Freedom: CA, WA, IL, MA, NY, CT, RI, DC, MD, HA

Ten of each.


51 posted on 04/29/2010 10:20:10 AM PDT by Natural Born 54 (FUBO x 10)
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To: stephenjohnbanker
I left California in the fall of 06, as I knew it was going down(in every respect).

Same here, except I moved the wife and kids to Texas in December of '05. The handwriting on the wall, and the accumulating signs of decay became too much to ignore any longer.

52 posted on 04/29/2010 10:24:20 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Mark for later.


53 posted on 04/29/2010 10:33:44 AM PDT by Czar (NRA Life Member)
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To: Windflier

If you look at the presidential election results state by state, the results do not entirely equate with the freedom study.

Colorado, Virginia and New Hampshire were not keeping their love of freedom in mind when they voted.


54 posted on 04/29/2010 10:35:45 AM PDT by Natural Born 54 (FUBO x 10)
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To: I Buried My Guns
I tell the prospective grandparents "Sorry, I want my kids to grow up in a safe and supportive environment where my values are the norm".

They don't even know what I mean by that, such is the extent of their Kool-aid drinkin'.

You've just described my precise observations about Texas, and why I decided to raise my four kids here, instead of California, where they were born.

You also hit the nail square on the head about how the folks back home feel about it. They honestly do not get it, because their liberal programming and indoctrination is so complete.

As far as they're concerned, I uprooted my kids from paradise and moved them to a less-than-desirable place. I was just back there, and spent considerable time trying to explain it all to them, but I still don't think they got it.

55 posted on 04/29/2010 10:58:06 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The interesting thought expressed in this article is the idea of the States taking a lead. Given the rumbling among various states this may be true. The value of the states taking the lead would be the fact: they are organized lawful governments, they have many resources not available to private groups i.e. aircraft, tanks, heavy guns, communication facilities. etc.

By the way big numbers are not necessary to effectuate a revolution: The American Revolution was effectuated with 5-10% of the Free population; Thomas Carlyle reported that only about 250,000 Frenchmen effectuated that countries change; Lenin had only about 250,000 out of a population of 100,000,000.

56 posted on 04/29/2010 11:01:31 AM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: Natural Born 54
Thanks for this. I really didn’t want to do all that work!

Soon as I saw your post, I thought of this study. It gets posted from time to time on the forum. It's been updated recently, so now's probably a good time to post it again.

Especially in light of the current tensions.

57 posted on 04/29/2010 11:13:18 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Natural Born 54
From the "Freedom In The 50 States" study:

Most Freedom: TX, AZ, CO, ID, ND, SD, MO, TN, VA, NH
Least Freedom: CA, WA, IL, MA, NY, CT, RI, DC, MD, HA

I'll bet that break-down exactly matches the current US migration pattern.

When we were moving from California to Texas in late 2005, the rental rates for U-Haul equipment from Cali to Texas was something like four times as expensive as rental rates for the same equipment going in the opposite direction.

U-Haul didn't artificially raise the rates on the Cali end. They discounted the rates on the Texas end. My wife did some checking at the time and discovered that they were even offering to pay people to get their equipment back to Cali, under certain circumstances.

Consider this: Texas has a net in-migration of 1,350 US citizens a DAY, while Cali is undergoing an annual net loss of US citizens. The only thing that's keeping their population number steady is the influx of foreigners and revolving door Americans.

58 posted on 04/29/2010 11:26:04 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: bamahead

Ping


59 posted on 04/29/2010 11:31:15 AM PDT by EdReform (Oath Keepers - Guardians of the Republic - Honor your oath - Join us: www.oathkeepers.org)
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To: OneWingedShark
You might enjoy reading my 2nd novel, to see another way this could play out. The first 100 pages are on my website if you want to take a test ride.


60 posted on 04/29/2010 11:35:37 AM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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