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To: kcvl
I am not a legal expert and didn't even stay at a Holiday Inn last night- but I did listen while some LEOs were discussing this new law. They claim the words "reasonable suspicion" are being taken out of context. According to them it is used as a legal term- much like "probable cause" and does not mean LEO can simply stop and question anyone they feel the urge to. Their take is if they do stop someone to determine citizenship they will have to be able to defend their reasons in court and simply saying someone looked like an illegal or whatever is not going be valid. Reasonable suspicion will not be whatever the individual LEO thinks is reasonable- it will have to stand up to scrutiny. Their idea is that determining citizenship will be part of other dealings with people- not the sole reason. If someone is stopped and has no license- registration- no ID, then amongst the other issues they will also determine citizenship.

I think the excuses are silly- but then those that support ILLEGALS have to twist and turn things because it is hard for them to say straight out that they fully support something that is illegal. That is why they change all the terms- call them immigrants, undocumented workers, anything other than what they are. Illegals used to be called illegal alien- and everyone knew what that meant. Then they started calling them migrants- because immigrants were legal. To cloud the issue further they now call them immigrants to lump them in with legal immigrants. Just smoke and mirrors.

36 posted on 04/25/2010 10:01:40 AM PDT by Tammy8 (~Secure the border and deport all illegals- do it now! ~ Support our Troops!~)
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To: Tammy8

Someone made a mention (especially if you have a driver’s license, anyhow) is if pulled over and ...”I forgot my i.d. at home” all you have to do is give your birthdate and name and they can look it up in the computer. Same way that I got pulled over for driving around looking for my dog for hours (neighbors had called about a suspicious vehicle) and without asking for my license, the officer was able to pull up my information via my license plate. Quite simple.


39 posted on 04/25/2010 10:10:57 AM PDT by HungarianGypsy
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To: Tammy8
According to them it is used as a legal term- much like "probable cause" and does not mean LEO can simply stop and question anyone they feel the urge to.

Start with whoever runs away when a LEO approaches. Then work your way back to the ones who answer "no Ingles" when asked "may I ask you a few questions".

42 posted on 04/25/2010 11:27:37 AM PDT by JimRed (To water the Tree of Liberty is to excise a cancer before it kills us. TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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