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To: bloodmeridian

Some people are so stupid (or at least pretend to be) when writing articles like this...

April 23, 2010

We’re Not Welcome Here: Native Arizonan Perspective on the Immigration Bill

by MHahn

I am not welcome here in Arizona.
Or rather, my husband isn’t – and our future children won’t be either. You see, Mike is half-Korean. Why is this a problem, you ask? Because as of this afternoon in Arizona, any law enforcement has the right, and indeed the obligation, to demand proof of citizenship or legal immigration status from anyone that they suspect of being in the state illegally.

But why should this matter? Mike is not Hispanic, after all – which is the group that the “toughest immigration bill in the country” was attempting to reign in. The problem is the question of what constitutes an officer’s “suspicion.” Without probable cause – such as actually committing a crime for which he could be arrested regardless of race- there is nothing to go on besides of the color of his skin.

http://thewip.net/talk/2010/04/were_not_welcome_here_native_a.html

Bio:
Raised in Phoenix, Arizona, I lived in Minnesota for five years and just returned from a semester in Poland. My specialties are Russian area and Korean issues.


35 posted on 04/25/2010 9:44:12 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: kcvl
I am not a legal expert and didn't even stay at a Holiday Inn last night- but I did listen while some LEOs were discussing this new law. They claim the words "reasonable suspicion" are being taken out of context. According to them it is used as a legal term- much like "probable cause" and does not mean LEO can simply stop and question anyone they feel the urge to. Their take is if they do stop someone to determine citizenship they will have to be able to defend their reasons in court and simply saying someone looked like an illegal or whatever is not going be valid. Reasonable suspicion will not be whatever the individual LEO thinks is reasonable- it will have to stand up to scrutiny. Their idea is that determining citizenship will be part of other dealings with people- not the sole reason. If someone is stopped and has no license- registration- no ID, then amongst the other issues they will also determine citizenship.

I think the excuses are silly- but then those that support ILLEGALS have to twist and turn things because it is hard for them to say straight out that they fully support something that is illegal. That is why they change all the terms- call them immigrants, undocumented workers, anything other than what they are. Illegals used to be called illegal alien- and everyone knew what that meant. Then they started calling them migrants- because immigrants were legal. To cloud the issue further they now call them immigrants to lump them in with legal immigrants. Just smoke and mirrors.

36 posted on 04/25/2010 10:01:40 AM PDT by Tammy8 (~Secure the border and deport all illegals- do it now! ~ Support our Troops!~)
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