Posted on 04/24/2010 11:59:52 AM PDT by Welshman007
While the nation was focused on the SEC investigation into Goldman-Sachs and other major stories, a little-noticed incident occurred which may have far-reaching implications for the 2012 Presidential election.
The Arizona House of Representatives voted to require Barack Obama to produce and show his birth certificate in order to be placed on the ballot in the state for his reelection bid in 2012.
Similar bills have been introduced in Oklahoma and Missouri, although the measures failed to become law due to one of the two branches of the legislatures failing to approve.
The issue will not go away, however.
A birth certificate alone is not enough to prove 'natural born citizenship' according to the understanding of the Framers of the Constitution.
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Maybe after the 2010 elections, such bills may be passed EVERYWHERE...
If the bill doesn’t specify the “original” birth certificate, its actually providing cover for Obama.
But, yes. We already know that while he may be “native born” he is self-admittedly not “natural born” as his father was not a US citizen (presuming the father of record to be Obama senior).
And to be a bit clearer, I’ve always said that it isn’t just the birth certificate in question, its the follow-on question of what citizenship did he claim in college and what passport did he travel on when he went to Pakistan. Those are three bits of information he has kept sealed away, and you have to assume he has sealed them away for a reason.
BTTT
Here’s hoping, this has been a divisive issue that we can remedy by clear laws on the subject. With as many larger problems as we have, an argument over whether the President is a citizen should never be. If anyone should be a citizen, it should be the POTUS first and foremost.
Save for further reading later.
It keeps getting LOUDER everyday!!!!!
geeze...I carry around a copy of my BC, but i really need to also carry a copy of my mom & dad’s BCs
Not really. That only applies if you run for President.
AMEN!
Stop shouting.
The election of 2008 guaranteed that Obama meets the qualification of natural born citizen if he was born in HI. The court system simply won't reverse all laws and policies connected with his presidency based on the parsing of the phrase "natural born". They couldn't even if they wanted to. The machinery is just too big and too complex to un-do.
Utter and complete nonsense.
It depends on the state, but yes many leave it entirely up to the political party to vet their respective candidates. This is an idiotic concept and is analogous to letting the fox guard the hen-house. Some states do require the actual candidate to sign an affidavit attesting that he meets the criteria outlined in Art. II of the Constitution.
But, there are no statutory preclusions from state officials denying ballot access, irrespective of whatever affidavits are on hand, if that responsible election official decides that the candidate is not eligible. In fact, there's precedent for such an event in a Presidential candidate not gaining ballot access in California because of his age, I believe.
As far as I know, there is still some question as to whether or not he obtained scholarship funds to Columbia for which only foreign students were eligible. If that's true, and if he was an American citizen at the time, that's fraud, and based on tuition costs at Columbia, probably a felony, although the statute of limitations has probably long since expired.
Sorry to burst your bubble but that's the way it is.
If you are a dual citizen, which he was (US and Indonesian), you have to choose which citizenship you claim upon reaching adulthood. If he traveled on an Indonesian passport as an adult, if he claimed Indonesian citizenship when he applied to college or for scholarship funding, then he has chosen.
Thats my interest.
But as you say, if he claimed it while also claiming US citizenship, then its fraud. I think it means legally he gave up his US citizenship.
In any case, he is determined not to release that information and I have to assume there is a reason. If the public at large understood the “natural born” issue, then all of this is moot as far as eligibility, but it is yet another question he has chosen to evade.
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