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Who can win in 2012 and truly take back our country?

Posted on 04/15/2010 11:37:43 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!

Opinions are like noses everyone has one.

Flame me all you like but I am not 100% pleased with contenders in 2012 that CNN could not wait to post that are supposedly dead even with Obama. (Ron Paul tied with Romney, I believe) We all know this is garbage (as far as Obama winning) and possibly the GOP contenders standings as well; as Obama is worse than Carter and polls show he will lose to Barney Fife.

Of Palin,Romney,Paul,Gingrich; SO FAR... I favor Ron Paul.

I have heard over the years Ron Paul was a nutcase. So...I did a little research and he is NOT a 9/11 truther. Other than his foreign policy of bringing all troops home -now- he is on the money.I can live with this.

He is an isolationist and this is somewhat what we need right now. He wants us cut off from the U.N. and all other foreign entities. He want the IRS done away with... Sounds good to me. He is a fiscal conservative that so far appeals to the very important Independent/conservative vote; of which I belong.

I like Gingrich but will the GOP ever really change? Logic prevails that if we continue the game of R's and D's switching power grabs we are only mediocre with the R's and doomed with the D's.

Romney is just a player. His health care fiasco is just that. Im tired of the McCain's and Lindsay Graham's.

Save the third party speeches getting Obama re elected. Obama will be voted out. Independents join the GOP in wanting him out of office.

Does the tea party come up with brand new candidates to sweep in 2010 and for the presidential election?

Does it really matter whether a republican or tea party candidate/ get in? I mean... once in DC the corruption lies so deep. This is why I will bet America goes for Ron Paul because he won't play the game.

If I offend all the Palin,Romney, lovers; I apologize but this needs discussed intelligently and not with blinders on.


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1 posted on 04/15/2010 11:37:44 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives

I like that Jim Thompson fellow!


2 posted on 04/15/2010 11:39:33 AM PDT by bgill (The framers of the US Constitution established an entire federal government in 18 pages.)
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To: bgill

Will he do away with our government spending millions on liquor bills and various other foolishness and endangered species ANIMALS while people in America lose jobs?

Will he tell the U.N. to go pound sand?

Will he tighten up America and MOST IMPORTANTLY

DO AWAY WITH POLITICAL CORRECTNESS?

He has my vote!


3 posted on 04/15/2010 11:43:38 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives

You like Ron Paul AND Newt Gingrich?

Hoo boy. You need serious help. A mental hospital.


4 posted on 04/15/2010 11:46:57 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (PALIN/MCCAIN IN 2012 - barf alert? sarc tag? -- can't decide)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Keep calling people nuts that don’t tow your exact line of thought you sound idiotic just like the MSM.


5 posted on 04/15/2010 11:49:00 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: Responsibility2nd

I am waiting for your thoughts/ideas instead of name calling.


6 posted on 04/15/2010 11:50:19 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: bgill; Jim Thompson; Jim Robinson

You running?


7 posted on 04/15/2010 11:52:18 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives

Isolationism has never been a good idea. I have no issue with most of Mr. Paul’s ideas, except (and it’s too big an exception to ignore) his foreign policy. I wouldn’t even care about that but for the fact that we can’t simply crawl in a hole and pull it in after us. It is, however, my nature to do so, but it’s just not possible.

I favor a flat tax, but I’m told it is regressive. I suppose that’s only because it would require everyone to pay taxes which we’ve been reticent to do.


8 posted on 04/15/2010 11:54:46 AM PDT by Constitutions Grandchild
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives
I like Gingrich...

How could you not? [hint: this is where you lost some credibility]


9 posted on 04/15/2010 11:54:52 AM PDT by xjcsa (Ridiculing the ridiculous since the day I was born.)
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives

I would watch the governors. The current budget situation is providing an opportunity for them to prove themselves as cutters of spending. Someone like NJ gov Christie has taken on the unions and is looking to reduce spending significantly. Also, NJ is a high beta state (revenues grow more quickly in recovery and decline more quickly in recession). If the national recovery takes hold, he could see a significant bump. However, 2012 may be too early for a run.


10 posted on 04/15/2010 11:55:59 AM PDT by NC28203
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives

I like Bobby Jindal and Michele Bachmann. We need brains, courage, faith and good strong family values, to topple the current dark administration.


11 posted on 04/15/2010 11:56:00 AM PDT by mlizzy ("Do not wait for leaders; do it alone, person to person" --Mother Teresa.)
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives

Loaded question...

you see - the kind of person it would take to “win back our nation” is deemed unelectable by the Republican Party (and many here on FR). The capitulators say we have to have a “middle of the road” candidate that has broad appeal. Unfortunately, as has been proven over-and-over - that kind of candidate becomes yet another of our big-government problems.


12 posted on 04/15/2010 11:57:01 AM PDT by TheBattman (They exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature...)
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To: NC28203
If the national recovery takes hold, he could see a significant bump.

The phrase "the national recovery" assumes the existence of such. I don't see it.

13 posted on 04/15/2010 11:57:27 AM PDT by xjcsa (Ridiculing the ridiculous since the day I was born.)
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Yep - while Newt has some serious issues - his wack-job view on GloBULL Warming/Climate change makes him someone I could not support for Dog Catcher.

All changes in our temperatures are completely natural (God is firmly in control). Any attempts to “correct” those changes are, as the writer of Proverbs puts it: Vanity.


14 posted on 04/15/2010 11:59:07 AM PDT by TheBattman (They exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature...)
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives
The problem isn't the election, it's the primary circuit. That's where we get killed.

Last time through we lost all of the good folks (Duncan Hunter, Fred Thompson, etc.) on the Conservative end and wound up with turds like McCain, Romney and Huckabee duking it out for the coming 'tard fight. None of them was any good and we had already lost in the primaries.

And don’t discount the threat of a third party. Yeah, I’d rather see a Tea Party contender in 2012 but if we have T, R and D then the right will be split and Obama will coast to reelection. Just look what happened in 1992 when Clinton ran against a Republican and a right-wing independent (Perot) and won with 43% of the vote! Perot again played the spoiler in 1996 with nearly 10% of the vote and Clinton becoming America’s first two-term minority president with 49.2% of the vote.

Fortunately Nader was nice enough to give us 2000 (and the dimocrats blame it on the SCOTUS! LOL) but that’s not the payback we need.

If the right can’t unite in 2012 we’re going to have four more years of Obama, guaranteed.
15 posted on 04/15/2010 11:59:54 AM PDT by Filo (Darwin was right!)
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To: mlizzy
Bobby Jindhal??? Please..

Can we please talk a bit more about Ron Paul? I think we should at least know everything about his policies. I am a Sarah Palin fans but so not sure she will run - what's the next choice, besides the RINOS - ALL of them?
16 posted on 04/15/2010 12:00:15 PM PDT by American Dream 246 (Open your eyes. Freedom is not a one day fight. Enemies of Freedom are legion.)
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives

A LOT can happen between now and the 2012 election cycle. All polls, press and prognastication are just spinning your wheels until the fall of 2011. Let’s concentrate on winning congress THIS YEAR and hold the new guys’ feet to the fire. Re-visit the POTUS issue in about a year and a half.


17 posted on 04/15/2010 12:03:51 PM PDT by TruthHound ("He who does not punish evil commands it to be done." --Leonardo da Vinci)
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To: TruthHound

You are very right :-)


18 posted on 04/15/2010 12:05:17 PM PDT by American Dream 246 (Open your eyes. Freedom is not a one day fight. Enemies of Freedom are legion.)
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To: NC28203

I am so in sync with you. Governor Christie/Palin team would be great. His term would be over just in time for the election. He is doing great things in NJ that I hope would be done for the entire country. Can you get his ear on this one? Go Christie.


19 posted on 04/15/2010 12:07:12 PM PDT by constant (a)
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To: American Dream 246
Bobby Jindhal??? Please..

I'll listen to whatever Ron Paul has to say, but Bobby Jindal is my favorite so far, and Michele Bachmann has an amazing calm courage that can only come from Christ. Everybody's got their favorites!!
20 posted on 04/15/2010 12:13:35 PM PDT by mlizzy ("Do not wait for leaders; do it alone, person to person" --Mother Teresa.)
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