He's not wearing any VN ribbons ....
Posted on 04/13/2010 10:00:19 AM PDT by BobMcCartyWrites
Why is it ridiculous?
If Vladimir Putin had come to America and was willing to sign a paper saying he was eligible to be president he would have every qualification that Obama has. He could refuse to show his BC and voila! Everybody would claim they had done due diligence.
The only reason we would distrust Vladimir Putin today is because we know the life he has lived in Russia. What do we know about the life Obama has lived anywhere else, or even here? He won’t allow us to see it. If Putin had been in the US for a couple of decades and nobody could find out what he had done in Russia, what would stop Putin from becoming the CIC of the US?
Nidal Hasan has shown us something sobering: our enemies have found our jugular. They have realized that they can infiltrate our military. If they can do that, where security clearances are required, then what is to keep them from infiltrating our Senate, House, and White House, where the people who do the ONLY security clearance allowed - the voters - are prohibited from seeing any background check materials?
So I ask again, why is that a ridiculous question? And the original questions still stand.
Nope. He’s not old enough to have served in Nam.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but; The Nazis who sent the millions of Jews to their deaths claimed that they were only OBEYING ORDERS and were told that they SHOULD NOT have obeyed those orders!
I realize as a fromer Regular Army E-5 that we can’t have individual troops going around and choosing carte blanche which orders they will obey.
I surely hope the Colonel fully investigated what potential problems he was letting himself in for BEFORE he made his decision; and I hope he made the decision with SOME POSSIBILITY of success in bringing the QUESTION out into the open. If he did this on a whim, and the authorities ar not required to produce any evidence, the Colonel is skrewed! The Military has the upper hand in all these situations, and I personally do not like the Colonel’s chances very much.
If a CO acting under the authority of CIC Vladimir Putin commanded a US army officer to deplay to a new base, would it be a lawful order? Why or why not? What would an officer faithful to his oath to uphold the Constitution do in such a case?
The de facto officer doctrine confers validity upon acts performed by a person acting under the color of official title even though it is later discovered that the legality of that person’s appointment or election to office is deficient. Norton v. Shelby County, 118 U.S. 425, 440, 6 S.Ct. 1121, 1124, 30 L.Ed. 178 (1886).
“The de facto doctrine springs from the fear of the chaos that would result from multiple and repetitious suits challenging every action taken by every official whose claim to office could be open to question, and seeks to protect the public by insuring the orderly functioning of the government despite technical defects in title to office.” 63A Am.Jur.2d, Public Officers and Employees § 578, pp. 1080-1081 (1984).
18 years active service.
“Imagine what kind of world we’d be living in.War is war and usually you are not going to see eye to eye with your leadership.”
The Colonel ISN’T questioning the validity of the war. He has already served, with great honor, and wants to again. He is questioning whether POTUS Obama is constitutionally qualified to hold the office of POTUS. Thus, if the orders are valid from a potentially invalid source.
The POTUS is trully the Commander and Chief of the Military; that isn’t just a catchy phrase. The SECDEF, SECARM, SECNAV, etc. all hold their positions at the pleasure of the POTUS. For that matter so do the Chairman and Joint Chiefs and anyone ranking 3 stars or higher...the president appoints them. All order ultimately DO come or flow out of the office of POTUS. Therefore, if the POTUS is NOT constitutionally valid, then the orders are not as well.
It is long past time for this issue to be heard and resolved by the SCOTUS. First there is the issue of providing the public with DEFINITIVE proof of President Obama’s place of birth in the form of an original vault copy of his birth certificate....not the word of the records keeper. Why hide it? Personally, I don’t think it will so him to be born anywhere but Hawaii as claimed, but it needs to be produced.
More importantly, in my thinking, is that his Natural Born Status needs to be decided by the SCOTUS since he is NOT the son of BOTH parents being U.S. Citizens. As many read the NBC requirement of the COTUS, this is required. It will take a SCOTUS decision to clarify/interpret what NBC means.
It needs to be done.
Thank you for Your Service! You are an American Patriot and Hero! My Prayers are with the Lt COL.! He is a true American Patriot and Hero also to stand up and ask ZERO who he really is!
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Just wondering: What happens to the brave colonel Lakin if--- in the near future---Obama is forced to allow Hawaii officials to release his long form birth certificate to the public and the media, and we find out that the long form birth certificate does NOT have a doctor signature or a hospital name on it?
Will the brave doctor Lakin receive a congressional public apology that says that Lakin was right all along? I hope so.
okay, already.
I was tryin’ to be like the media via John Kerry.
geez. :)
Whether anyone hated FDR or not is not the issue here.
The officer doesn't "hate" osamaobama, he just wants him to prove that he is a natural born citizen of the United States and therefore has issued a legal order.
I agree with you, but I think we are in the minority.
Imagine what we would say if liberal soldiers had refused to deploy to Iraq until Bush had his election verified in a court of law.
That's a great point. You're absolutely correct.
“Hey I respect that officer but this is wartime-imagine if those who hated FDR had refused to deploy.”
I don’t think it’s because he hates BO. There are serious questions regarding BO’s eligibility that the officer is questioning.
He's got 18 years in. That makes the start date around 1992. So, maybe Gulf War I. About 15 years too late for Vietnam.
God bless the man who will stand up for what is right. Our turn is coming....................
We all (in the uniformed services) have always had the option of obeying or disobeying orders, every day. Most will never even stop to think that an order is potentially unlawful.
If any troop decided that today he was not going to obey an order becasue his conscience told him so, then HE SHOULD NOT OBEY it without 1) asking himself if it indeed is unlawful in his own undersatnding, and two, if he can gain clarity by asking for such PRIOR to disobeying said order.
Bottomline: We all had the choice, whether we had conviction and courage to do so, well, that is a personal matter.
I retired in 2006. If I was on duty today, I would have some serious soul searching to do. As it was, I offered to be enjoined in several cases that have since been declared to not have standing.
I am a retired field grade officer, and as such, can be ordered back to active duty BY THE PRESIDENT OF THE US at his pleasure.....
God Bless the USA
He filed an Article 138, it cannot be pushed aside.
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