I'm on the Freddie Mercury fan bus. Zanizibar license plate Heading to corrupt the government to obtaing the certificate
Posted on 04/11/2010 3:02:29 PM PDT by InspectorSmith
"If America was living in a situation where they feared ethnicity and did not see itself as a multiparty state or nation, how could a young man born here in Kenya, who is not even a native American, become the President of America? It is because they did away with exclusion. What has killed us here is exclusion; that once Mr. Orengo is President, I know of no other place than Ugenya. That is why we were fighting against these many Presidencies in the past. I hope that Kenya will come of age. This country must come of age. People want freedom and nations want liberation, but countries want independence."
(Excerpt) Read more at bunge.go.ke ...
Take a look at “CERTIFICATE OF BIRTH. Also take a look at the rest of the smaller same sized text. All the text is is same as the 1961 CPGH Mombasa birth certificate.
THE WEBSITE that the Zanzibar birth certificate is posted on HAS ONLY HAD 185 views so far. And most of those are probably from all of use that have viewed it. And the other 85 views are probably from Kim aka Mik beating of to the ENTER key as he/she refreshed the page.
http://www.freewebs.com/mercury_girl/index.htm
Great Kim (Mik Taerg) created the “Zanzibar” birth certificate and the “free website”.
What a loser. Great Kim aka Mik Tearg is probably living in some crumby little apartment and jacking off to American Idol contestants.
Respectfully,
Lucas D. Smith
http://homelandsecurityus.com/archives/3735
The Obama eligibility issue: has it already been answered?
No. It has been a common tactic to refute questions about OBAMA’s eligibility by citing the Internet publication of a Certification of Live Birth (COLB), also known as a “short form birth certificate” purportedly issued by the state of Hawaii. The controversial document was originally posted on the Internet at http://www.dailykos.com, a political website on or about 12 June 2008 as questions about OBAMA’s place of birth and eligibility status began to become a popular Internet topic. As there was no certification of authenticity that accompanied the alleged document, its provenance could not be established.
The author also speaks of "authentic provenance" in other sections of the article.
The best than can be said about Smith's Kenyan BC is that the provenance like Obamas COLB can not be established. That is because Smith refuses to answer questions or provide ANY evidence that his story is true,
Take a look at “CERTIFICATE OF BIRTH. Also take a look at the rest of the smaller same sized text. All the text is is same as the 1961 CPGH Mombasa birth certificate.
THE WEBSITE that the Zanzibar birth certificate is posted on HAS ONLY HAD 185 views so far. And most of those are probably from all of use that have viewed it. And the other 85 views are probably from Kim aka Mik beating of to the ENTER key as he/she refreshed the page.
http://www.freewebs.com/mercury_girl/index.htm
Great Kim (Mik Taerg) created the “Zanzibar” birth certificate and the “free website”.
What a loser. Great Kim aka Mik Tearg is probably living in some crumby little apartment and jacking off to American Idol contestants.
Respectfully,
Lucas D. Smith
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Wow
You're really losing it Smith
I dont remember a more pathetic little man on FR
“Now you are claiming that you are “self employed” when just a few months ago you claimed that you are “one or two chief administrators” at the company that you work for2
and I don’t see the contradiction since it’s my company.
Lucas,
this last post of yours is a series of personal insults. I guess you feel great about this. Personal insults which follow two simple links I provided.
As a matter of fact: I have been to Africa. This is of no importance to our case
As a matter of fact I have 3 children. This is importnat to me but not to our case. So please keep my family out of this.
You are attempting to brush aside ANY information on the NET
by disqualifying the entire INTERNET. Maybe you believe I have set up INTERNET ?
What’s wrong with you young man ? IS it so difficuot to answer a few straight questions based upon information found on the now disqualified INTERNET ?
Why does the Kenyan Press mention Jennifer Othigo as CA before and after Feb 19th 2009 instead of Dr,Maganga ?
This facts seems undisputable.
Every time this comes up you resort to insults. You are not able to answer. Disproving WND is easy, since they are liars just as you are. Disproving some supported facts seems a lot mor difficult, doesn’t it ?
And many have asked you to post the African pics. Where are they, Lucas ? WHERE ARE THEY ? Oh sorry, you expect them to go to Africa and find out for themselves, since you have diqualified the entire net.
Keep up the good work, you fool.
Great Kim (Mik Taerg) created the “Zanzibar” birth certificate and the “free website”
You are absolutely crazy.
The Freddie MErcury certificate is there since many years now.
And you, small, insignificant scammer, are so foolish to affirm I created the Mercury site. Who do you think I am ? What incredible powers are giving me ?
Wake up Lucas. The more you claim such silliness, the more people will start realizing that what you have done is by FAR MORE SIMPLE. POSTING A FAKE CERTIFICATE.
So it’s up to this choice
either Mik TAerg is the great Internet dominator who created the Freddie Mercury site, the site with the Kenyan Certificate, The Kenyan online news sites referring to Othigo, maybe he even created Freerepublic or, maybe
more simply
Lucas Smith forged a document and posted it online.
“Take a look at “CERTIFICATE OF BIRTH. Also take a look at the rest of the smaller same sized text. All the text is is same as the 1961 CPGH Mombasa birth certificate.”
CERTIFICATGE OF BIRTH on both
the rest is totally different
LIAR
I'm on the Freddie Mercury fan bus. Zanizibar license plate Heading to corrupt the government to obtaing the certificate
some infos from Kenya.
Warning: this is INTERNET information.
http://www.mirp.go.ke/Service_Charter.pdf
National Registration Bureau Services
Identification in Kenya is traced from 1915 when the British colonial government passed the Native
Registration Ordinance in which, it was mandatory for all adult male Africans to register and carry
identification papers. The Registration of Persons Ordinance Cap 50 of 1947 made mandatory for all
male persons of 16 years and above to register.
This Ordinance became the Registration of Persons Act Cap 107 of the Laws of Kenya in 1963. This
Act was amended in 1978 to provide for the registration of both male and female and create the
Department of National Registration Bureau. An amendment of the Act in 1980 changed the
registration age to eighteen (18) years.
Civil Registration Services
Registration of births and deaths was introduced for the first time in Kenya in 1904 and applied only
to Europeans and Americans.
In 1928 the current Act CAP. 149 was enacted. This Act only provided for the compulsory registration
of the deaths of Africans but not for their births.
After independence in 1963 compulsory registration of all births and deaths was extended in phases
to other areas beginning with Nairobi and Nyeri on 1st March 1963. On 1st September 1971 it
became compulsory to register all births and deaths occurring in Kenya.
Well if that photo has not been photo shopped I may have to reevaluate my entire theory about how you placed the Freddie Mercury BC on line in 2000.
That clearly is Zanzibar as I can see a “Z” in the licsence plate.
(I really am a bit fuzzy as to why the Freddie Mercury deal is so important to Smith but if it set him off like it has, all I can do is thank God for Freddie)
Sometimes Smith feels bad after he has posted a totally inappropriate comment (such as he has lately) and he then pulls them . I have copied them into my posts so there is a record.
Also I had posted part of Smiths criminal record at # 616 . Smith had it pulled.
I talked to the mods about it and while they agree its in the public records they didnt want to take the chance of leaving it up
I received this info from another freeper who had found criminal activity by Smith as recently as 2008
Respectfully,
Woofie
Which proves what??
Smith submitted the document and an affidavit to the courts.
If he lied, he will be held accountable.
Any supporting evidence, that he may need in court, is priveledged information.
He is represented by lawyers, as he has told us all on numerous occasions, and I presume, has been told not to discuss anything that has not already been mentioned.
So you, Mik, and others brow beat him to get more information.
What a surprise, its not forthcoming. And I surmise, until he is heard in open court, and his documents and affidavit are heard, she SHOULD say nothing.
Now, it appears he spends his time on various projects, and lets what information go that can be let go, and nothing else.
Nobody can prove the document is fake, or real, but Smith
So don’t act like you can or cannot disprove it, because you can’t.
Move on to other projects, or are you simply incapable of understanding what has been said a thousand times before.
Sheesh!
I like to post this list occasionally when it seems appropriate:
Here are Alinsky’s Rules for those who haven’t seen them lately:
1. Power is not only what you have but what the enemy thinks you have.
2. Never go outside the experience of your people. It may result in confusion, fear and retreat.
3. Wherever possible go outside the experience of the enemy. Here you want to cause confusion, fear and retreat.
4. Make the enemy live up to his/her own book of rules.
5. Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon.
6. A good tactic is one that your people enjoy.
7. A tactic that drags on too long becomes a drag.
8. Keep the pressure on, with different tactics and actions and utilize all events of the period for your purpose.
9. The threat is usually more terrifying than the thing itself.
If you had some money and you were considering investing with this man would you or would you not want someone to warn you if they thought he was a crook?
The law DID catch up with him but a LOT of people were hurt before that happened.
As to whether or not I move on I will determine that ...most people who can think and reason and have paid a little bit of ttention realize Smith is a phony but I guess there will always be a few like you who wont or cant see their way through the weeds
Explain exactly how you, or anyone else would be hurt by Lucas Smith. Nothing you do or say, will make one iota of difference when he steps before a judge, or his documents are reviewed or he is made responsible for his affidavit. Your example is completely unrelated as an example.
This guy was evidently hurting people, costing them life savings. Now, if your talking about going to the police, or an attorney, and actually doing something other than talk, and harass, and bug the sh!t out of everyone here, that is different. Are you?
Show me where he has hurt anybody with the evidence he has provided to the courts.
I happen to think there are legitimate questions to be asked of Pres. Obama regarding his BC ...If you have liars out in front of the “Birthers” it helps to insure that they are not taken seriously ...
Lucas is so inept I think you are right in some regards... he has acted so poorly as to render himself “non serious” Most people think he is a buffoon.....I hope you read his latest posts about Freddie Mercury’s BC being forged ....its a sure sign that some screws are loose.
I believe Lucas is mad about the Freddie Mercury thing for a couple of very simple reasons.
After having bought on e-bay two colonial reports and having discussed them in his video
he came to the conclusion than neither Kenya’s, nor Zanzibar’s government issued BCs before they became indipendent
this would have made the Hospital the legitimate source to his fraud
when the Mercury certificate was mailed to him
he immediately realized he made an error but what got him really mad was having to spend money to do the research he could easily have done on the net which he know disqualifies entirely.
BTW my previous post linking to the GVT of Kenya is partially supporting Lucas position. It says that before the 70’s Gvt BC’s were not mandatory. It also says that during the colonial period GVT BCs were mandatory for Europens and Americans Only.
If you think about it, this is interesting. How would Kenya’s authorities have dealt with Obama’s case ? His father was African and his mother was American. So was his American mother required to register him (condition for obtaining a gvt BC) or not ?
I have read all about your “discussions”
You are fighting a red herring as far as YOU should be concerned. If you don’t like what he says...don’t respond.
Personally, I think what he has is legit. I have checked every line, I have investigated everything everyone has said about him and the document. BUT...until the courts review it, question Smith, etc. NOTHING can be done, one way or the other. The document, regardless of Lucas, WILL stand by itself. His affidavit, will testify to how he got it and the supporting evidence that IMO he is NOT sharing with others. AND, I think that is the way to handle it.
I know that we all want the dirt. We all want to get the skinny, and if we don’t believe him, want to discredit him. BUT, its states evidence, nothing you can say here will change that, and unless you have direct, provable evidence, that its phony, that your willing to submit to the courts, thru an attorney...well, your just spinning your wheels, and most of us are sick of that, and have been for a long time. So, take a deep breath, and let it go. If you can’t do that, then by all means, do your own investigations, and make a change that means something, not just lip service. And I mean that in the nicest way possible.
Thanks man.
Lucas is now preparing some breaking news about:
A Study of the Plant Ecology in the Cast Region of Kenya Colony British East Africa
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?VISuperSize&item=260576721395
Will this be a video, or a dissertation ?
Will it be auctioned on E-Bay ?
Will it serve as proof he was in Kenya on Feb 19th 2009 ?
I have been told Im wasting my time by trying to nail Smith (arent we all?)
I think you you will find me from here on out on any thread that deals with a hippopotamus.
however the ebay deal reminds me of one of my many unproven theories
I think its possible that Smith bought the Kenyan BC from someone ...and he doesnt know for sure if it is real or not.
Its clear to me that Smith’s Africa story is not true
(I really thought the Africa story was the best part of the whole deal...its what sold me on the BC in the first place as it seemed plausible)
Its hard for me to imagine Smith putting this thing together then trying to get rich and famous off of it...and Im not sure Smith is smart enough to make a fake BC. But if he bought it or it was given to him that accounts to his putting so much energy into trying to prove its real by looking at a lot of arcane data.
He cant simply submit it to an expert or his fraud will be uncovered, but he wants the people on the internet to prove that it is real. I think in his heart of hearts he knows its bogus though.
Just a theory though ....another theory is Smith is a psychopath
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