Posted on 03/20/2010 1:10:46 PM PDT by Michael Eden
This is Bernie Madoff Accounting. And the same fate that befell Madoff's investors will one day befall the American people. The Democrats only count the costs they want to count, and simply pretend the rest don't exist, or assure that they somehow shouldn't be counted. Positive numbers from unrealistic expectations show up on one side of the ledger, while negative numbers representing massive government and personal spending are ignored.
This article will demonstrate the REAL cost of ObamaCare. And what we will find is that it will sneeze chunks bigger than the $940 billion that the CBO score pitches.
It's not like the CBO isn't aware that it is being played like a fiddle. They can only analyze legislation as it is presented - and this legislation is being presented by partisan Democrat ideologues. The CBO has pointed out that the Democrats have a pattern of double-counting the same dollars. But they can't do anything about it: if the Democrats tell them to double-count, they dutifully double-count. Paul Ryan points out that Medicare cuts are double counted, Social Security taxes get double counted, increased CLASS Act premiums get double counted, to the tune of hundreds of billions of dollars. Other sources of revenue - such as the not-to-be-implemented "Cadillac Tax" which would itself count for 25% of deficit reduction in the CBO score - will likely NEVER see the light of day. The CBO numbers become a shell game.
You can understand why the Democrats would want to run away from details of the CBO score. If the facts get in the way of their theory, so much the worse for the facts.
Then there's the likelihood that ObamaCare will destroy as many as 700,000 jobs. What's THAT going to cost America? Would THAT be "deficit neutral"? And how much will it cost Americans as increased government taxes on private health insurance companies, pharmaceutical companies, and medical device and supply companies, pass the burden of those taxes onto us? Will THAT be "deficit neutral" for American families?
But let's stay out of the budgetary weeds, and remain on what is clear and straightforward.
Let us first begin with the "Doctor fix," which is a $208 billion spending measure to restore the reimbursement rates for doctors who treat Medicare patients. If it isn't passed, the current rate - which already leaves hospitals and many doctors losing money to treat Medicare patients - would be slashed by an additional 21 percent. It simply has to be fixed, or doctors and hospitals will quit treating Medicare patients.
But if the Democrats strip that part out of their health care bill, they can claim that 21 percent reduction in doctors' reimbursements as "savings." Even if they intend to fix the reimbursement rate, such that those "saving" never materialize. And that little bit of fiscal circular reasoning allows them to claim that their bill is "deficit neutral."
Medicare fix would push health care into the red Rollback of Medicare cuts to doctors, if added to health care bill, push it into the red On Friday March 19, 2010, 6:33 pm EDTWhat this basically means is that $940 billion number in the CBO report that the Democrats are cheering over is entirely subjective. It would have been a lot higher if they had included the stuff they should have included. And they didn't include these things simply because it would have made their number look bad. It's Alice in Wonderland accounting.WASHINGTON (AP) -- Congressional budget scorekeepers say a Medicare fix that Democrats included in earlier versions of their health care bill would push it into the red.
The Congressional Budget Office said Friday that rolling back a programmed cut in Medicare fees to doctors would cost $208 billion over 10 years. If added back to the health care overhaul bill, it would wipe out all the deficit reduction, leaving the legislation $59 billion in the red.
The so-called doc fix was part of the original House bill. Because of its high cost, Democrats decided to pursue it separately. Republicans say the cost should not be ignored. Congress has usually waived the cuts to doctors year by year.
So let's look at the truth: Democrats are claiming that their "$940 billion bill" would reduce the ten-year deficit by $138 billion. But in reality, the doctor fix which SHOULD be in the bill would INCREASE THE DEFICIT by $59 billion. That's a swing of 197 billion dollars, which is one hell of a swing indeed.
But that certainly isn't the only budget shenanigan that Democrats have used to monkey the numbers to appear to look like what they want:
For a variety of reasons, this tally doesn’t remotely reflect the bill’s real ten-year costs. First, it includes 2010 as the initial year. As most people are well aware, 2010 has now been underway for some time. Therefore, the CBO would normally count 2011 as the first year of its analysis, just as it counted 2010 as the first year when analyzing the initial House health bill in the middle of 2009. But under strict instructions from Democratic leaders, and over strong objections from Republicans, the CBO dutifully scored 2010 as the first year of the latest version of Obamacare. If the clock were started in 2011, the first full year that the bill could possibly be in effect, the CBO says that the bill’s ten-year costs would be $1.2 trillion.This $260 billion ($1.2 trillion minus $940 billion) deficit created by backdating the bill to 2010 instead of starting in 2011 when they should (until Democrats instructed them to do differently) has nothing to do with the deficit created by the doctor fix. So they compound: $260 billion plus $197 billion equals $457 billion.
So we're talking about a real and obvious deficit of nearly half a trillion dollars. But that's nowhere near as bad as it will really be.
You see, even starting the CBO ten-year cycle in 2011 is nothing more than a gimmick. That's because the plan begins taxing in 2011, but benefits (actual spending outlays) don't begin to be funded until 2014. The Democrats tax for ten years, but only spend for six. Why did they do that? Because that is the only way they can get the illusion of a "deficit neutral" figure. As Heritage points out:
[S]ome scrupulous tactics were used to calculate the 10-year cost projections. The key provisions in the health care bill don’t go into effect until 2014. Meanwhile Medicare cuts and tax increases would go into effect immediately. So the money raised through taxes and spending cuts in the first four years of the 10-year projection would offset the expenditures in the subsequent six years. Consequently, when the true ten year window (2014-2023) is examined, and the costs of the “Doc Fix” are taken into account, the cost rises to $2.3 trillion.This - and the shenanigans Democrats employ with the CLASS Act - is why Heritage rightly calculates the REAL cost of ObamaCare as likely far higher than $2.5 TRILLION.
These are obvious and transparent gimmicks. But the mainstream media is largely simply ignoring it. They are liberal in their ideology and "gatekeepers" in their philosophy of journalism. The result is that they don't tell you anything that they don't want you to know.
But even that - as utterly terrible as it is - is STILL not anywhere close to the REAL cost of this disastrous health care bill. Consider the most sobering Democrat omission of all. From Cato:
Another gimmick pushes much of the legislation’s costs off the federal budget and onto the private sector by requiring individuals and employers to purchase health insurance. When the bills force somebody to pay $10,000 to the government, the Congressional Budget Office treats that as a tax. When the government then hands that $10,000 to private insurers, the CBO counts that as government spending. But when the bills achieve the exact same outcome by forcing somebody to pay $10,000 directly to a private insurance company, it appears nowhere in the official CBO cost estimates — neither as federal revenues nor federal spending. That’s a sharp departure from how the CBO treated similar mandates in the Clinton health plan. And it hides maybe 60 percent of the legislation’s total costs. When I correct for that gimmick, it brings total costs to roughly $2.5 trillion (i.e., $1 trillion/0.4).For the record, it was this subsidizing of the private health insurance companies that Dennis Kucinich was talking about before he backstabbed his own principles and voted for the bill anyway.Here’s where things get really ugly. TPMDC’s Brian Beutler calls “the” $2.5-trillion cost estimate a “doozy” of a “hysterical Republican whopper.” Not only is he incorrect, he doesn’t seem to realize that Gregg and I are correcting for different budget gimmicks; it’s just a coincidence that we happened to reach the same number.
When we correct for both gimmicks, counting both on- and off-budget costs over the first 10 years of implementation, the total cost of ObamaCare reaches — I’m so sorry about this — $6.25 trillion. That’s not a precise estimate. It’s just far closer to the truth than President Obama and congressional Democrats want the debate to be.
In 1994, the universal health care plan proposed by President Clinton included a mandate requiring all individuals to purchase health insurance. The Congressional Budget Office studied the issue and concluded that the United States had never in all its history mandated that individuals purchase any good or service. The CBO stated:
“A mandate requiring all individuals to purchase health insurance would be an unprecedented form of federal action. The government has never required people to buy any good or service as a condition of lawful residence in the United States. An individual mandate would have two features that, in combination, would make it unique. First, it would impose a duty on individuals as members of society. Second, it would require people to purchase a specific service that would be heavily regulated by the federal government.”But it is going to start doing so now, under Obama and the Democrats in Congress. They could care less about the Constitution, or about the consequences of radically expanding already massive government bureaucracies.
Obama is going to force you to purchase insurance, but the CBO won't count the cost of one penny of that spending, now or ever. If you send money to the government that the government requires you to send them, that's a tax. If the government spends money, that counts as spending. But if the government forces you to send money to a private health insurance company, that isn't counted. It amounts to a tax that isn't "deemed" (there's a good word these days) a tax.
Thus the REAL ten-year cost of ObamaCare won't be $940 billion. It won't even be $2.5 trillion. It will be SIX TRILLION DOLLARS. And counting, and counting, and counting, and counting.
for the kind of money this abomination is going to cost, we could send every uninsured american in the country to medical school . . . from now on.
Of course the fix is in as far as the numbers not adding up.
and we’ll learn soon enough if the fix is in with the actual vote on this darn thing.
What makes me the maddest of all is that they couold care less what WE the people say. They act as if WE answer to them! This is out of control beyond belief, and Obama is poising himself to be a dictator, THAT is what is scary about all this. Look at every decision he has made, all against what is right and what our founders intended. I do not trust this president, what a BIG mistake this country made when electing him, I am glad I was smart enough NOT to fall for his lies, no matter what they say about McCain—HE would never have brought us to where we are right now.
My “magic Obama” moment was when I heard the sermons from Jeremiah Wright, and learned that Obama had been going to this racist, Marxist, anti-American church for 23 years.
I wasn’t an expert in politics, but I know that I would have gotten up and walked out - and probably had a loud and angry remark to offer as I did so.
I still remember having the same sick feeling in my gut as Obama’s fellow congregants stood up and cheered to Wright’s unAmerican rants that I did when I saw the footage of the Palestinians dancing in the streets after the towers collapsed on 9/11.
I knew then that Barack Obama was a genuinely evil man.
Oh, many cheered “the first African-American president” like a Messiah. But I read history, and am not easily swayed by adoring masses:
From journalist Stephen Laurent:
“I am writing this from cell 24. Outside a new Germany is being created. Many millions are rejoicing. Hitler is promising everyone precisely what they want. I think when they wake to their sobering senses, they will find they have been led by the nose and duped by lies.”
Outside a new America is being created...
I believe the Lord is returning soon, and all this stuff confirms it, they will pay for what they do to this country by a force MUCH BIGGER than Obama could ever dream of being. Obama is evil, I see that in so many things he believes in. He is not a Christian, as the Bible says we will know them by their fruits, and his fruit is nothing but ROTTEN.
I’m with you re: the last days.
The Book of Revelation makes a lot more sense in light of the economic collapse. And the economic collapse makes a lot more sense in light of the Book of Revelation.
We are looking at a coming massive global collapse such that has never been seen which will probably result from the soon-coming collapse of the US economy due to the kind of hard-core idiocy we are seeing now.
That collapse will precipitate a global collapse. Out of which we will see a global government (and one of the main obstacles to a global government to this point has been the independence of the United States and the American people; but we won’t matter much soon, will we?). America has largely been in the way of this move to a one-world government because our way of life is so much better than virtually everyone else’s. But soon we will be as desperate and as poor as everyone else.
There will be economic depression, wars, and famine
A man (of Roman ancestry) will arise and restore the ashes to order. He will seem to be able to solve every problem. The world will literally worship him.
But behind the scenes, he will be the most evil man who ever lived.
Enter the Book of Revelation. Enter the beast.
But, of course, for this scenario to happen, some unmitigated, unparalleled fool has to be elected president of the United States, and he has to have the full power of a despicable Congress behind him, such that he can enact policies that implode our economy and our way of life from within...
Which, of course, is why the government takeover of student loans is now securely nestled inside the government takeover of health care.
And Obama is going to need to start sending all kinds of people to medical school, because over 46% of doctors are saying they’re going to say ‘bye bye, stupid people’ if ObamaCare passes.
Since when does a democrat politician care about the cost? And the democrat voters can’t add 2 + 2.
I think he is to be from “muslim” back ground as opposed to Middle Eastern or Roman.
One world government = “new world order” George H.W. Bush
All these guys have been fooling us since 1988. Reagan’s one mistake was choosing him as his veep.
MORE and more each day I see him as the anti christ.
The African American doctor of 30 years I protested TURN COAT JOHN TANNER, bribed by a NATO job, said he’d retire..0 may get to the point of having to CONSCRIPT the retired doctors, or import Non-English speaking ones or both.
AIN’T JUST GRANNY & GRAMPS GETTING WHACK, MILITARY IS TOO.
KEEP THE CALLS UP! DC OFFICE LOCAL OFFICE
Hold your own street protest in front of your reps local offices. Or busy street corners. Try and get the local media to cover it. Hammer the Medicare/SS issue, nothing like mad grannies and gramps.
This is from a 2007 contact list of congressional aides. Some might not be there any longer, but worth a try. The ones on the one post are senate aides, a few have bounced back, it’s worth the effort to clog up their email system along with the phones, and 1/3rd of these senators are up for re-election.
Mail must be inspected for anthrax takes 2 weeks, so if you snail mail send a post card
Contact congressional aides. SENATE AIDES.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1857768/posts
U.S. Senate switchboard: (202) 224-3121
U.S. House switchboard: (202) 225-3121
White House comments: (202) 456-1111
Find your House Rep.: http://www.house.gov/writerep
Find your US Senators: http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm
Toll free to the US Senate:
1-800-882-2005. (Spanish number)
1-800-417-7666. (English number)
Courtesy of a pro-amnesty group, no less!!
Defeat Obamacare call list: List now contains the new MAYBES culled from FR posts. Be sure to call KNOWN RINOS too.THEY ARE ANSWERING THEIR LOCAL NUMBERS
Here is one of the ones Rush gave out on the radio that I’m calling. So far it’s been busy but I’m going to burn it up till I get to tell my congress critter to vote NO!
Join me?..... 1-877-762-8762
CODE RED Contact list http://www.nrcc.org/CodeRed/targets/
Remember they are all being offered BRIBES for their votes. Ask them how much their bribe price is.
The National Republican Congressional Committee has published a target list on health care. In addition to continuing to contact the five Tennessee Democrat Congressmen, you can go http://www.votervoice.net/link/clickthrough/ext/94697.aspx to contact some of these targets. Much of the talk following Obama’s announcement has focused on how to defeat this second bill through reconciliation, but that is misleading because the first step to defeating Obamacare is not by concentrating on defeating the “fixer” bill but by defeating the Senate bill in the House when it goes to the floor for an up-or-down vote on Sunday March 21st.
Good idea from the bloggers at Hillbuzz:
http://hillbuzz.org/2010/03/17/action-items-march-17th-2010/
They offer specifics and links on how to put pressure on Dem DONORS, who have private numbers for legislators who may have taken their phones off the hook.
Congress may not want to hear from us, but they’ll listen to the money men.
Call them and fax them them instead of telling us you don’t trust them.
www.faxzero.com for two free faxes a day.
www.gotfreefax.com for another 2 free faxes per day.
Congressional Dems on Twitter
http://www.arrghpaine.com/congressional-dems-on-twitter
RUSH says to pressure these 2
Charles Wilson, Ohio Toll Free Number 888-706-1833 DC (202) 225-5705 fx: (202) 225-5907, Bridgeport, (740) 633-5705 fx: (740) 633-5727, Canfield, (330) 533-7250 fx: (330) 533-7136 Marietta, : (740) 376-0868 fx: (740) 376-0886 Ironton, (740) 533-9423 fx: (740) 533-9359 Wellsville, 330) 532-3740 Canfield, here is the zip code 44406.
Joe Cao DC (202) 225-6636 Fax: (202) 225-1988, NO (504) 483-2325 Fax: (504) 483-7944
NEW FLIPPERS
Rep. Bart Gordon TN (202) 225-4231 Fax: (202) 225-6887 Murfreesboro, TN 37130 GETS A NASA JOB for his vote
(615) 896-1986 Cookeville (931) 528-5907 Gallatin, (615) 451-5174
Mark Schauer D.C. (202) 225-6276 Fax: (202) 225-6281 Jackson, MI (517) 780-9075
Fax: (517) 780-9081 Toll-Free: (877) 737-6407
Christopher Carney (202) 225-3731 (570) 585-9988 PA 10th District
Dennis Kucinish, Lakewood 216)228-8850, Fax (216)228-6465,
Parma. 440)845-2707, Fax (440)845-2743, DC (202)225-5871
Dennis Cardoza DC (202) 225-6131, Fax: 225-0819, 800-356-6424, Merced, (209) 383-4455 Fax: 726-1065 Modesto 209) 527-1914 Fax: 527-5748 Modesto, (209) 527-1914
Fax: 527-5748
Jim Costa Fresno 559-495-1620, Fax:559-495-1027, Bakersfeld, 661-869-1620 Fax: 661-869-1027 DC Phone:202-225-3341 Fax: 202-225-9308 Fax (202)225-5745
James Oberstar (202) 225-6211, Duluth (218) 727-7474, Chisholm (218) 254-5761, Brainerd (218) 828-4400, North Branch, (651) 277-1234
Gabrielle Giffords (202) 225-2542 (520) 881-3588 AZ 8th District
John Boccieri (D), Ohio Voted Yes on Stupak, NO on Health Care.Contact info - DC office (202) 225-3876 - Fax - (202) 225-3059 (330) 489-4414, Local Fax - (330) 489-4448
Betsy Markey DC 202.225.4676, fx. 202.225.5870, Ft. Collins, 970.221.7110fx 970.221.7240, Greeley, 970.351.6007 fx 970.351.6068, Lamar, 719.931.4003
fx 719.931.4005, Sterling, 970.522.0203 fx 970.522.1783
Alan Boyd FL DC 202) 225-5235, (202) 225-5615 Fax Tallahassee (850) 561-3979
(850) 681-2902 Fax Panama City (850) 785-0812 (850) 763-3764 Fax
S. Kosmos FL DC (202) 225-2706 Fax: (202) 226-6299, Port Orange, FL 32129
Phone: (386) 756-9798 Fax: (386) 756-9903 Orlando, FL 32826
Phone: (407)-208-1106 Fax: (407)-208-1108
Brad Ellsworth IN Evansville (812) 465-6484 fx: (812) 422-4761 Terre Haute (812) 232-0523 fx: (812) 232-0526 DC ph: (202) 225-4636 Toll Free: (866) 567-0227
fx: (202) 225-3284
John Tanner (202) 225-4714, Union City, (731) 885-7070, Jackson Phone: (731) 423-4848, Millington (901) 873-5690 TN (RETIREING, His going away present to the USA, gets a NATO JOB for vote.
Thinks you are harassing him! Rep. John Garamendi’s (CA-10) (202) 225-1880
Fax: (202) 225-5914 Walnut Creek, (925) 932-8899 fax: (925) 932-8159 Antioch (925) 757-7187 Fax: (925) 757-7056 Fairfield, Phone: (707) 438-1822 Fax: (707) 438-0523
Bill Owens (202) 225-4611 (315) 782-3150 NY 23rd District
Tim Bishop (202) 225-3826 (631) 696-6500 NY 1st District
MOVED TO UNDECIDED
rec’d from NCTeaParty.com — Despite earlier assurances that he was a NO on health care reform and would not change his mind, Rep. Heath Shuler, NC 11, is now undecided.
Rep. Heath Shuler, North Carolina 11th http://shuler.house.gov/ DC Office Number: (202) 225-6401, DC Fax Number: (202) 226-6422 Local Office Number: (828) 252-1651, Local Fax Number: (828) 252-8734 Chief of Staff: Hayden Rogers email: hayden.rogers@mail.house.gov
Lincoln Davis 202.225.6831Fax: 202.226.5172 Columbia Office 931.490.8675
Jamestown 931.879.2361 Fax: 931.879.2389 McMinnville, 931.473.7251 Fax: 931.473.7259
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Steve Cohen TN, DC (202) 225-3265 Fax: (202) 225-5663, Memphis, TN, 901) 544-4131 Fax: (901) 544-4329
Harry Mitchell (202) 225-2190 (480) 946-2411 AZ 5th District
Ann Kirkpatrick (202) 225-2315 (928) 226-6914 AZ 1st District
Jerry McNerney (202) 225-1947 925-833-0643 CA 11th District
John Salazar 202-225-4761 970-245-7107 CO 3rd District
Jim Himes (202) 225-5541 (866) 453-0028 CT 4th District
Alan Grayson (202) 225-2176 (407) 841-1757 FL 8th District
Bill Foster (202) 225-2976 630-406-1114 IL 14th District
Baron Hill 202 225 5315 812 288 3999 IN 9th District
Gary Peters (202) 225-5802 (248) 273-4227 MI 9th District
Dina Titus (202) 225-3252 702-256-DINA (3462) NV 3rd District
Carol Shea-Porter (202) 225-5456 (603) 743-4813 NH 1st District
John Hall (202) 225-5441 (845) 225-3641 x49371 NY 19th District
Dan Maffei (202) 225-3701 (315) 423-5657 NY 25th District
Earl Pomeroy (202) 225-2611 (701) 224-0355 ND At-Large District
Steven Driehaus (202) 225-2216 (513) 684-2723 OH 1st District
Mary Jo Kilroy (202) 225-2015 (614) 294-2196 OH 15th District
Kathy Dahlkemper (202) 225-5406 (814) 456-2038 PA 3rd District
Patrick Murphy (202) 225-4276 (215) 826-1963 PA 8th District
Paul Kanjorski (202) 225-6511 (570) 825-2200 PA 11th District
John Spratt (202) 225-5501 (803)327-1114 SC 5th District
Tom Perriello (202) 225-4711 (276) 656-2291 VA 5th District
Alan Mollohan (202) 225-4172 (304) 623-4422 WVA 1st District
Nick Rahall (202) 225-3452 (304) 252-5000 WVA 3rd District
Steve Kagen (202) 225-5665 (920) 437-1954 WI 8th District
Bart Stupak (202) 225 4735 MI (MAYBE)
Brian Baird (202) 225-3536, Vancouver, (360) 695-6292. Olympia, (360) 352-9768, (MAYBE)
senator mark begich (202) 224-3004 toll free. (877) 501 - 6275 just became a MAYBE
Alan Mollohan (202) 225-4172 (304) 623-4422 WVA 1st District
Nick Rahall (202) 225-3452 (304) 252-5000 WVA 3rd District
Steve Kagen (202) 225-5665 (920) 437-1954 WI 8th District
Bart Stupak (202) 225 4735 MI (MAYBE)
Brian Baird (202) 225-3536, Vancouver, (360) 695-6292. Olympia, (360) 352-9768, (MAYBE)
senator mark begich (202) 224-3004 toll free. (877) 501 - 6275 just became a MAYBE
NEW NO’s
Zach Space (202) 225-6265 (330) 364-4300 OH 18th District
Jason Altmire 202-225-2565, Aliquippa, 724-378-0928, Natrona Heights, 724-226-1304 (NO)
Michael A. Arcuri (NY-24) NO
Harry Teague NM NO
James Matheson Toll-Free Number 1 (877) 677-9743 (202) 225-3011Mike Arcuri (202)225-3665 (315)793-8146 NY 24th District
And here are toll-free numbers we can use to call any Senators or Reps.
At the first number below you must wait through a tape recording urging you to tell your Rep or Senator to vote “yes” for the health care bill. Just hang on and when the recording is over, you will get the Capitol operator. Just ask for your Rep or Senator’s office. Then you will either talk to an aid or have the chance to leave a message for him/her to vote NO on the health care bill.
When you use the second number and the Capitol operator comes on, just ask for your Rep or Senator’s office. Every time I use this number I get the Rep or Senator’s answer machine, so it may be set up that way all the time...to go to their answer machine. Either way you can leave a message to vote NO on the health care bill!
We need to use these toll free numbers that have been set up for the health care/ BO supporters and illegals to use! After all they are FREE!
1-866-220-0044, 1-866-338-1015, 877-851-6437, 877-210-5351
The reason I say he will be of Roman ancestry is because of Daniel 9:24-27
Verse 26 says that “the people of the prince who is to come will destroy the city [Jerusalem] and the sanctuary.”
The “people” who destroyed Jerusalem were clearly the Romans.
I don’t have time to find “the best” study of Daniel 9, but here’s one from John MacArthur.
http://www.biblebb.com/files/mac/sg27-26.htm
I DO believe that it’s possible that the false prophet (who is also referred to as the “second beast”) might well be a Muslim.
I view Obama as one of the false messiahs that Jesus describes as coming in the last days:
“for many will come in my name, claiming, ‘I am the Messiah.’ They will deceive many” (Matthew 24:5).
In other words, I view Obama as one of the false messiahs who will plunge the world into chaos to prepare the way for the final Antichrist, the beast.
Where Obama creates unmitigated disaster after unmitigated disaster, the final Antichrist will seem to solve every problem for the first 3 1/2 years of the Tribulation.
Since when does a democrat politician care about the cost? And the democrat voters can’t add 2 + 2.
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On my view, it’s not so much being stupid as having stupid beliefs.
Democrats are radically committed to a depraved and totally false view of the world, such that they cannot see it as it truly is.
They literally WILL themselves to be stupid.
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