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The End of the American Republic
The Conservative Camp ^ | March 19, 2010 | Robert Ditmar

Posted on 03/18/2010 9:46:44 PM PDT by The Conservative Camp

The Democrats have now cleared the way to ram the final health care socialism package through the House this Sunday by using "deem and pass." They are in open and direct violation of Article 1, Section 7 of the United States Constitution. The vast majority of Americans who are adamant in their opposition to this imposed socialism are screaming at the top of there lungs to have their elected "representatives" hear them and vote the way the majority wants.

The Democrats in the House and Senate have a message for all of you. Screw the constitution, and screw you, too! Your vote is about to no longer count in the new Democratic dictatorship that Obama, Pelosi and Reid are going to impose on you.

Come Sunday, these dictators will deem that the House has "voted to pass" the Senate health care bill, without voting at all. Obama will hurriedly sign the bill into law, and you will start to pay immediately into your new, bureaucratic-run, Canadian-style health care program. Senior citizens will soon be making appointments with their local, government-controlled death panels so they can understand that it would be better for them to just die rather than seek treatments that can prolong or save their lives.

Your current insurance company will eventually fold and go out of business because they will no longer be able to afford to compete against the U.S. Government forcing budget-busting regulations. Your employer will soon drop your coverage because it will be cheaper to pay a fine or tax to the government rather than pay the huge cost of trying to keep you privately insured. Within a few short years, you will be gradually corralled into the single-payer tax system, meaning your insurance company will be none other than the one, the only Uncle Sam. This means the U.S. Government now owns you, because they own all the health care apparatus and coverage in the country. Pray that you do not become ill with an unapproved affliction that the government will not permit, lest you take an early trip to your local death panels.

The Wall Street Journal has a piece today that pretty much explains how the current version of the Democratic Party just murdered our representative republic this week. Come Sunday, America will be a completely different place, and you will start to notice within a year or two.

At least we had a good 234 years! It was great while it lasted!


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1 posted on 03/18/2010 9:46:44 PM PDT by The Conservative Camp
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To: The Conservative Camp

ping


2 posted on 03/18/2010 9:48:32 PM PDT by unkus
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To: The Conservative Camp

The death of America was a long process. We need a resurgence in federalism. We need sovereign states that assert their sovereignty with teeth.


3 posted on 03/18/2010 9:49:06 PM PDT by MichiganConservative (A government big enough to do unto the people you don't like will get to doing unto you soon enough.)
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To: The Conservative Camp

If the Democrats use the “deem and pass” scenario this can expose the entire healthcare bill to constitutional challenges.


4 posted on 03/18/2010 9:50:26 PM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld ("I have learned to use the word "impossible" with the greatest caution."-Dr.Wernher Von Braun)
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To: The Conservative Camp
The Wall Street Journal has a piece today that pretty much explains how the current version of the Democratic Party just murdered our representative republic this week.

The Republic's been dead for a while, sir.

5 posted on 03/18/2010 9:51:00 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 (Live Free or Die)
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To: rabscuttle385

Removing the law of congress is the final. If congress is no longer capable of constitutional law then neither am I. That’s all


6 posted on 03/18/2010 9:57:08 PM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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To: The Conservative Camp

“Stand your ground; don’t fire unless fired upon, but if they mean to have a war, let it begin here.”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZfRaWAtBVg

In the pre-dawn hours of April 19, 1775, a large intimidating contingent of British soldiers advanced upon the village green of Lexington, Massachusetts. Their mission: to seize and destroy military supplies held by the colonial militia in nearby Concord.

What they did not suspect, however, was the accuracy of intelligence that had been gathered by the unassuming patriots, a small group of whom were waiting in a local pub for news of their arrival. Various accounts of what exactly transpired at dawn may differ, but nearly every American remembers the meaning of the “shot heard ’round the world” and the ensuing Battles of Lexington and Concord that led to the Revolutionary War and the founding of a new society, a new people, and a new government free from tyranny.

One memorable quote has been inscribed on a stone marker in the Lexington Common, attributed to Captain John Parker, leader of those 77 Lexington minutemen: “Stand your ground; don’t fire unless fired upon, but if they mean to have a war, let it begin here.”


7 posted on 03/18/2010 9:57:46 PM PDT by TheCause ("that these United Colonies are, and of right ought to be, free and independent States")
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To: The Conservative Camp

There is only one hope for our Republic

2 Chronicles 7:14
14 if my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then will I hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and will heal their land.


8 posted on 03/18/2010 10:01:54 PM PDT by Lera
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To: The Conservative Camp
I completely agree. The basis of our Republic will be totally shot through with holes if this bill becomes law. The new principle of collective rights will quickly, within a few years, strip the concept of individual natural rights from law and in society.

Whose right is health care? Do you think it's yours?

Congressman Anthony Weiner has said that health care is not a commodity. If it isn't a commodity then do doctors and nurses have rights? Assigning health care the status of a right makes health care workers slaves to that right who must serve it. On what ground could a health care worker refuse to provide their products and services since that would violate the patient's "basic human right to health care."

That is a direct loss of individual rights for health care providers. The collective right of the people to receive health care would supersede the provider's individual right to set fees and hours or to change their occupational status or even decide how to apply their skills and knowledge if taken to its logical extreme. A collective right, by practical definition, is a state right because it is a right that is created and given by the government to those it chooses to give it to. It is not a natural right possessed by each person protected by the Constitution from the government. It is also a collective/state right by virtue of the fact that it would supersede individual rights when the two come into conflict. How else would the government view a right that it created and administers vs. one it has no control over?

Of course it isn't stated in any bill that a patient's right to care supersedes a provider's right to set fees and hours etc, but it doesn't need to. Rights, as always, are adjudicated in the courts. The Health Care Reform bills simply establish the foundation for the courts to rule in favor of the collective right.

Weiner’s view is collectivist, fascist and totalitarian. Collectivist because it has to be described as being a right of the many instead of the one and superior due to that fact. Fascist because ultimately the sole authority for its creation and oversight is from one entity the Federal government. Totalitarian because the Federal government is the enforcer of this collective right as well. State and local jurisdictions will have little say about it.

Congressman Weiner's view is the underlying philosophy of all of the Health Care Reform legislation in the House and Senate. Consider this section in the Senate version of the bill; the setting up of community watch dogs that will monitor citizens for various health parameters. Read pages 382 - 393.

TITLE I—QUALITY, AFFORDABLE HEALTH CARE FOR ALL AMERICANS pps 382 - 393

So, even citizens themselves will be subject to Federal regulations on their behavior in order to fulfill the "human right" of universal health care. It isn't the individual's liberty that is being protected by that it is the government's control over its own health care system that is being guarded. How much clearer can it be that these bills abrogate the concept of individual rights? Someone will be checking your lifestyle, according to gov regulations, to be certain you serve the best interests of the "basic human right to health care" ie. "the Public Option."

HCR is not just about rationing care and wealth redistribution. It's about the end of individual rights as the corrosive effects of the new collectivist "basic human right to health care" spreads throughout the legal and political systems like a virus.

I think that the main purpose of Health Care Reform (HCR) is as a direct assault on individual liberties.

Health Care is a Liberty Issue
Conservative Underground - 18 August 2009 - Tim Dunkin

Another Stupid Argument: Heath Care is a Right

Involuntary Medical Servitude

Obama's Authoritarian, Unconstitutional Health Care Proposal

Defining A Right In America

To Americans Who Believe Healthcare is a Right

OBAMA: HEALTH CARE DESTROYING FREE SPEECH

Mandated health insurance threatens freedom, privacy

Second Bill of Rights aka FDR's economic bill of rights
(An early attempt to embed collective rights into American politics and society.)


9 posted on 03/18/2010 10:03:29 PM PDT by TigersEye (It's the Marxism, stupid! ... And they call themselves Progressives.)
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To: TheCause
Obama's legislation = The Intolerable Acts
10 posted on 03/18/2010 10:03:40 PM PDT by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: The Conservative Camp

Today I heard Rush describe what is going on as “tyranny.” Now....I’ve thought the same myself for sometime, however, to hear Rush SAY IT.....well....ahem....it seems we are on the precipice.....


11 posted on 03/18/2010 10:03:43 PM PDT by goodnesswins (Tagline, oh, tagline, whereart thou tagline....)
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Are we justified now in taking up arms to defend the Constitution?


12 posted on 03/18/2010 10:06:02 PM PDT by Huskrrrr
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To: eyedigress; 1COUNTER-MORTER-68; marron
“Removing the law of congress is the final. If congress is no longer capable of constitutional law then neither am I. That’s all”

If Congress cannot, nay, will not follow the law, should We the People be stupid enough to finance through our hard labor their lawlessness?

13 posted on 03/18/2010 10:07:27 PM PDT by Chgogal (American Mugabe, get your arse out of my bank, my car, my doctor's office & my elec. utility.)
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To: Lera

It was said that only a virtuous people can govern themselves. Just what do people think was meant by “virtuous”?

Marxism, or whatever it goes by, appeals to the worst parts of man’s nature.


14 posted on 03/18/2010 10:09:24 PM PDT by MichiganConservative (A government big enough to do unto the people you don't like will get to doing unto you soon enough.)
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To: Chgogal

No! They choose to break their swear on God’s word and I stay far away from that. Everyone of our reps in Washington swore to uphold the Constitution. They now pretend it means whatever the hell they want it to mean. I will have to live through the devil’s reign. Our Founders have known this could happen. I will handle Satan in my own way.


15 posted on 03/18/2010 10:17:43 PM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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16 posted on 03/18/2010 10:17:59 PM PDT by garjog (Used to be liberals were just people to disagree with. Now they are a threat to our existence.)
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To: The Conservative Camp

The American Republic ended a while ago but this latest stunt just makes it official & on the record.


17 posted on 03/18/2010 10:19:47 PM PDT by Republic_of_Secession.
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Assuming this POS becomes law and all legal challenges fail, the GOP better be aggressively campaigning in the months prior to November. The GOP needs to point out that the Democrats care more about their party than the fate of their country and are willing to employ any means (legal or not) in accomplishing their objectives. No more “Mr. Nice Guy” like McCain was in 2008.

The public anger will not go away and we should win back the House and I pray we win back the Senate this November. I doubt we will have enough to override Obama’s veto. The key will be 2012, besides the White House, there will be more Dem seats in play. Win all three (a filibuster-proof majority in the Senate) and start fixing things up.


18 posted on 03/18/2010 10:21:33 PM PDT by eekitsagreek (Hey, hey! You can ask iJ!)
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To: Huskrrrr

Are we justified now in taking up arms to defend the Constitution?


We’re right on the edge.


19 posted on 03/18/2010 10:22:44 PM PDT by unkus
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To: goodnesswins

Today I heard Rush describe what is going on as “tyranny.” Now....I’ve thought the same myself for sometime, however, to hear Rush SAY IT.....well....ahem....it seems we are on the precipice.....


Rush is right. And if we don’t stop this, people like Rush will be “dissapeared” in a short time.


20 posted on 03/18/2010 10:25:00 PM PDT by unkus
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