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President Obama's birth doctor, James Ang'awa, was neighbors with Barack Obama Senior in the 1960s
allafrica.com and Mary Ang'awa (Dr. James Ang'awa's daughther) ^ | 03.05.2010 | InspectorSmith

Posted on 03/05/2010 7:56:12 PM PST by InspectorSmith

Dr Ang'awa had worked in Embu, Kiambu, Kilifi, Mombasa, Kakamega and Bungoma and was one of the best known members of the medical profession in the country.

Her father was brutally killed when she was a teenager more than 40 years ago, but Lady Justice Mary Ang'awa has opted to forgive his killer. During her reflection at a recent meeting to plan the 40th anniversary of the death of her father, she had no qualms about offering a pardon. "I have forgiven you," she says is the message she has for the killer of Dr James Ang'awa.

One of the pioneer medical specialists in the country, Dr Ang'awa was hit on the head with a blunt object on Tom Mboya Street by an unknown assailant.

A police inquest cleared a suspect who had been arrested although Justice Ang'awa is not convinced the decision was the right one. "My father died a painful death. Investigations and inquests were concluded. I and my brothers--Antony, Hillary, Charles and William-- have climbed a steep path to success with the guidance of our mother Perez. So the best thing to do is to forgive the killer," she told the Sunday Nation.

At the time of her father's death, Justice Ang'awa was a Form One student at Limuru Girls' high school. Her family enjoyed a comfortable life; her father was establishing a reputation for his research into treatment of tuberculosis.

The family lived in high-class government quarters in Upper Hill. Among their neighbours were Dr Njoroge Mungai, former President Kenyatta's personal physician, President Kibaki, who was then minister for Finance and the late Barack Obama Sr, father of American President Barack Obama.

The family was evicted from the house three months after Dr Ang'awa's death.

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TOPICS: Heated Discussion
KEYWORDS: angawa; artbell; awgeez; barackobama; birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; coastprovincial; eligilbility; inelegible; kenya; lucassmith; mombasa; naturalborncitizen; obama; obamafamily; tinfoilhat
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To: InspectorSmith

Thank you! (But now I won’t be able to get my swelled head through the bedroom door to go to sleep tonight)


141 posted on 03/05/2010 11:11:32 PM PST by Seizethecarp
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To: American Dream 246

No problem!


142 posted on 03/05/2010 11:12:46 PM PST by Seizethecarp
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To: etraveler13

It HAS not been presented to the SCOTUS...all that have reach that level have been tabled instead of dismissed. They can be pulled back up at the appropriate time....Too bad for BO.


143 posted on 03/05/2010 11:14:13 PM PST by hoosiermama (ONLY DEAD FISH GO WITH THE FLOW.......I am swimming with Sarahcudah! Sarah has read the tealeaves.)
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To: hoosiermama

I would like to participate please.


144 posted on 03/05/2010 11:16:00 PM PST by Natural Born 54
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To: InspectorSmith

Where was that video shot? Was it in Kenya? What part?


145 posted on 03/05/2010 11:16:13 PM PST by willyd (Reducing Taxes Reduces our Carbon Footprint)
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To: Seizethecarp

HA HA HA ha ha ha!


146 posted on 03/05/2010 11:23:30 PM PST by InspectorSmith
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To: woofie

I have no problem with being cynical.
I do have a problem with stating as fact that which is unsubstantiated.
I am also long past doing others homework. If you want to show me something, post it, or provide a link. I am not going to spend my time researching something for you. I am willing to read what you post however.

There is no desperation on my part at all. I have spent the past year on the same old questions, they have been resolved. I am most interested in the new information.

If you noticed, I am the only person asking if he knows if Obama’s mother lived in the house with Obama Sr. The is a good question, as she and Obama Sr did not live together in Hawaii.


147 posted on 03/05/2010 11:28:50 PM PST by etraveler13
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To: hoosiermama

Your question/statement was:
How much of this was done to kick it up to a higher court? With a case of this magnitude no lower court judge wants to take responsibility...It really needs to be handled by the SCOTUS and the only way it can get there is for lower judges to kick it up stairs.


Then you say it has not been presented/submitted to SCOTUS, then say that ALL that have reached that level have been tabled????

Your confusing me...your own statement answers your question.


148 posted on 03/05/2010 11:32:14 PM PST by etraveler13
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To: etraveler13

Have read though all the documents presented to the SCOTUS and their findings with an attorney who practiced for fifty plus years, graduated at the top of his class and clerked in the federal court system.

When you’ve done the same we’ll discuss it.


149 posted on 03/05/2010 11:42:12 PM PST by hoosiermama (ONLY DEAD FISH GO WITH THE FLOW.......I am swimming with Sarahcudah! Sarah has read the tealeaves.)
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To: etraveler13; hoosiermama; Red Steel; Fred Nerks; BP2; Danae; DJ MacWoW; onyx; All

The Monitor (Kampala)
Uganda: Citizens Form Obama Support Group

Grace Matsiko
16 February 2008

Kampala — Ugandans have formed a group to mobilise support for Kenyan born-senator, Barack Obama for the US presidency.

The Obama Solidarity Group (OSP) launched its campaign at Makerere University on January 18, according to one of the members.

http://allafrica.com/stories/200802180051.html


150 posted on 03/05/2010 11:55:24 PM PST by STARWISE (They (LIBS-STILL) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war- Richard Miniter)
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To: STARWISE

I don’t have this one. I’ll do a screen capture of it for posterity.


151 posted on 03/06/2010 12:05:25 AM PST by Red Steel
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To: InspectorSmith

smith i’m slammerhammer—


152 posted on 03/06/2010 12:07:36 AM PST by chicken head
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To: DJ MacWoW
Ender Wiggins is a troll and his sidekick is the guy who falsified/forged a Kenyan BC last summer.

I think the guy who forged the Kenyan BC was the one who said he 'discovered' the document it was forged from: Steve Ellis, who also goes by Koyaan. He had an ongoing battle with Polarik over who was the better Photoshop expert. His story about discovering the forgery was a little too convenient.

153 posted on 03/06/2010 12:27:06 AM PST by edge919
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To: InspectorSmith
I am beginning to think the reason that Barry does not want his BC known is that the father on it may be a US citizen. The aim of the controllers of Barry may not be just to have BO become Pres of the US but they have groomed him to be the head of the new world order with being Pres of this the most powerful country in the world being just a stepping stone. They want him to have a foreign pedigree with it's accompanying Kenyan Obama story because it allows for him to step into the position of world leader much easier than if he is just a citizen of the supposedly much despised USA.

Being an Obama from Kenya with a Muslim, communistic background allows him to be accepted by Muslims, European liberals and communist. Being raised as Barry Soleto by a Muslim also helps beef up his credentials with Muslims. He may easily be accepted by so called Christians because he claims also to be a Christian. Being a liberal from this country helps him for some unexplainable reason to be accepted by many Jews. It is the universal pedigree that makes him a good candidate as one world leader. His mystique is broken is he is just a plain old citizen from the USA. Just a thought!

154 posted on 03/06/2010 12:45:43 AM PST by Bellflower (If you are left DO NOT take the mark of the beast and be damned forever.)
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To: Jo Nuvark

During the period when Barack Obama served as a U.S. Senator from Illinois, many African publications stated that he was born in Kenya, specifically in Mombasa. It is still possible to find archives of those publications online.

It is not unusual to find occasional statements in Kenyan publications stating that Obama was born in Kenya, and there appears to be widespread agreement among the public in that nation that our President was indeed born there.

There were also statements by then Senator Obama himself saying that he was from Kenya. Those statements have been scrubbed from the internet.

While researching Obama, I had cached some of those statements in my computer. But in April, 2008, my computer was hacked (from a Senate Office building in Washington, D.C.) and all three of my hard drives were copied before being wiped.

I complained to the FBI but without results. It happened again during the fall before the national election 2008, only this time the hacking was from Chicago, Illinois.

Barack Obama is hiding his background. What else can I say?


155 posted on 03/06/2010 1:03:44 AM PST by SatinDoll (NO Foreign Nationals as our President!!)
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To: butterdezillion

If I hadn’t read African publications from the early 90s stating that Senator Barack Obama from the State of Illinois had been born in Kenya, then like you I probably wouldn’t believe Smith.

But information about Obama was being scrubbed off the internet back in early 2008 when I first started researching his background. God only knows how much has been lost.

What is really telling about this situation, is if Obama II wasn’t born in Kenya, why is the government there refusing to release any documents pertaining to him?


156 posted on 03/06/2010 1:19:02 AM PST by SatinDoll (NO Foreign Nationals as our President!!)
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To: InspectorSmith

Lousy and irrelevant work as usual Lucas. Grasping at straws.
Just as the instances you previously brought up to “qualify” your fraud:

1 a belgian University having two admninistrators to prove your signing Chief Administrator was the “stealth” Chief Administrator alongside the official one

2 a sushi dish from New Zealand to prove you have indeed been in Mombasa on Feb 19th 2009

3 a zoominfo link that mentions Dr.Othigo as Deputy Chief Administrator in 2007, which she was indeed, just as she was Chief Administrator on your Feb 19th 2009.

So, since you insist with your rubbish here are the same questions for you again:

1 How come your document is signed by the Chief Administrator Helton Maganga since:

a) he wasn’t the Chief Administrator at the time
b) his real name is Heltan and not Heltan ?

2 Since you have admitted to never have met the Chief Administrator how is it that you are so sure about hime having signed your fraud ?

3 Where have your videos “to describe African surroundings” been shot ?

4 Have you any documentary proof about your trip to Kenya ?

Also Lucas, there is a tender action by CPGH on the net which undeniably proves the Chief Administrator can be one and one only

http://www.ictvillage.com/_Adm.BDetails2.asp?Linkid=1&Infoid=4001&Page=0

For newcomers here is a full list of documents used to disqualify Lucas’ claims to authenticity:

Othigo as Chief Administrator of CPGH

here are the references to Jennifer Othigo as CA of CPGH before Feb 19th 2009, the date stamped above Maganga’s signature obove Lucas’ document.

http://www.nation.co.ke/News/-/1056/499590/-/tm7r8p/-/index.html
http://www.marsgroupkenya.org/multimedia/?StoryID=227214&page=3
http://www.unmultimedia.org/radio/english/detail/36898.html
http://www.eastandard.net/news/InsidePage.php?id=1144003096&cid=159&;;;

here are the references that Othigo was still CA until April 13th 2009

Feb 24th http://www.vvog.be/docs/2009/02/24094002.doc
Mar 26th http://www.standardmedia.co.ke/InsidePage.php?id=1144009846&cid=159&;;;
Feb 27th http://www.marsgroupkenya.org/multimedia/?StoryID=247437&p=Nyeri+Town&page=2
Apr 13th http://www.nation.co.ke/InDepth/-/452898/560148/-/tqw6oqz/-/index.html

here are the first refernces to Maganga as CA of CPGH

Jun 17th http://www.kbc.co.ke/story.asp?ID=58041
Jun 2009 (Kenya TV video) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vL2ErPz7Qk

Heltan or Helton ?

All articles in The Nation, a Nairobi paper, call him Heltan. Heltan is also what you can read in the subtitles of the previous video.

Only The Standard has spelled him Helton and once even Heltun. Most recent Standard articles refer to Heltan.

There are also two medical directories that spell Heltan Mnjama Maganga

http://sskenya.org/?page_id=254 (found by Lucysmom)
http://www.healthoutsource.co.ke/directory/healthdirectory.php?id=1199

There is also an adress provided by ICHR as to where to send donations
http://blogs.channel4.com/snowblog/2009/10/07/a-doctors-blog-from-kenya/

Lucas, document forgery is a serious crime, even in Kenya, which is part of the Interpol. So quit re-posting your indirect subjective confirmations about authenticity (Obama Senior and Ang’awa possibly knew each other, and that makes your document authentic ?) Should you apply your investigative criteria to Obama’s colb you should declare it authentic.


157 posted on 03/06/2010 1:45:45 AM PST by Mik Taerg
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To: etraveler13

Obama Sr was living in Hawaii in 1961 at 625 11th Ave. he wasn’t in Mombasa at tha time. SAD also told her friends that HE WAS NOT PRESENT at the birth.


158 posted on 03/06/2010 2:32:32 AM PST by Chief Engineer
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To: InspectorSmith

Inspector Fake....as fake as you ARE ...You have not proven that you went to kenya! Show us the pictures with those kenyan background. Don’t tell us that those background from your viseo were from Kenya. The backgound was definitely from the squatters of Santo Domingo, in the Dominican Republic. Even the audio tells us that people were speaking in Spanish. Now SHOW US YOUR VISA TO ENTER KENYA, YOUR CREDIT CARD RECEIPT, EVEN YOUR LUGGAGE TAGS WILL SUFFICE, YOUR DINNER RECIEPT, PICTURE OF SITES WITH YOU ON THE FORGROUND.....NADA.....YOU’VE EVADED THIS FOR SO LONG!


159 posted on 03/06/2010 3:26:40 AM PST by Sectumsepra
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To: InspectorSmith

“And guess who Doctor James Ang’awa’s neighbor was in the 1960’s??????????? BARACK OBAMA Senior!”

Are you implying Obama Senior killed Ang’awa in 1970?
Possibly part of a greater plot to erase the kenyan birth documents you have resurfaced ?

Do your realize how totally idiotic you sound ?


160 posted on 03/06/2010 3:59:51 AM PST by Mik Taerg
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