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Top US International Lawyer Defines "Natural Born Citizen" in 1904
patlin ^ | 3/2/2010 | Alexander Porter Morse (1904)

Posted on 03/02/2010 11:43:58 AM PST by patlin

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To: edge919

Judges are not infallible. But one shouldn’t shouldn’t just hop, skip and jump into court like Merry Andrew, and try to stay away from Wong, and think the Court ain’t going to catch it. SCOTUS decisions are kinda important and I have proven to you modern courts will rely on it.

FWIW, I get paid by the hour with a commission for each convert, who is then transformed into a troll obot to go out and spread the word. Like in Amway, I am now a Diamond Distributor, and I get a cut off their converts. I plan on winning the trip to Hawaii.

Its easy. You don’t have to sell anything. The product sells itself. Btw are you aware how good our SA8 detergent is, and ......

parsy, who will share a testimonial from an ex-birther with you tomorrow....


81 posted on 03/02/2010 11:04:36 PM PST by parsifal (Abatis: Rubbish in front of a fort, to prevent the rubbish outside from molesting the rubbish inside)
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To: edge919

Judges are not infallible. But one shouldn’t shouldn’t just hop, skip and jump into court like Merry Andrew, and try to stay away from Wong, and think the Court ain’t going to catch it. SCOTUS decisions are kinda important and I have proven to you modern courts will rely on it.

FWIW, I get paid by the hour with a commission for each convert, who is then transformed into a troll obot to go out and spread the word. Like in Amway, I am now a Diamond Distributor, and I get a cut off their converts. I plan on winning the trip to Hawaii.

Its easy. You don’t have to sell anything. The product sells itself. Btw are you aware how good our SA8 detergent is, and ......

parsy, who will share a testimonial from an ex-birther with you tomorrow....


82 posted on 03/02/2010 11:04:37 PM PST by parsifal (Abatis: Rubbish in front of a fort, to prevent the rubbish outside from molesting the rubbish inside)
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To: Vendome

Hey, I lost you in the shuffle. I did Obamaville and Ode to orly Taitz. Haven’t worked on Squatting Over Wall Street anymore. Sprung my left had trying to re-learn left thumb positions. Been on guitar break for a few days.

parsy, who has Birthers running thru the briars and running thru the bushes and running thru the places where a rabbit wouldn’t go.....


83 posted on 03/02/2010 11:08:13 PM PST by parsifal (Abatis: Rubbish in front of a fort, to prevent the rubbish outside from molesting the rubbish inside)
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To: parsifal

You don’t have anyone running Parcy.I’ll bet you would shut up if someone propped a full length mirror beside you.


84 posted on 03/02/2010 11:59:49 PM PST by philetus (Keep doing what you always do and you'll keep getting what you always get.)
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To: parsifal

Um no, all people from Arkansas don’t speak like that. Sorry, that is a lie.


85 posted on 03/03/2010 12:15:27 AM PST by mojitojoe (“Medicine is the keystone of the arch of socialism.” - Vladimir Lenin)
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To: parsifal

My eggs!? LOL ;-O

Thank you for a civil discussion, Parsy.

My views on Wong Kim Ark are thanks to the wisdom and knowledge of a lawyer steeped in Constitutional Law. It is unfortunate that there are so dang few of those types of gentlemen and scholars out here in the wide world.


86 posted on 03/03/2010 12:20:25 AM PST by SatinDoll (NO Foreign Nationals as our President!!)
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To: SatinDoll; bvw; Uncle Chip; El Gato; BP2; ASA Vet; Red Steel; STARWISE; DJ MacWoW; Las Vegas Ron; ..
Nocturnal grandma here, lol. When you can't sleep...READ...

Boring census records. Well, instead of putting me to sleep it revealed some rather interesting statistics.

The births were classified according to the nationality of the parent and were broken down into 3 categories:

Native...Foreign...Mixed/One Parent Foreign

The records are from 1849-1863

http://books.google.com/books?printsec=frontcover&pg=PT361&id=LvGPEgEu7ysC#v=onepage&q=&f=false

The 1870, 1880, 1890, 1900, 1910 & 1920 census records also break down the births according to the nationality of the parents.

Now, if the definition of citizen at birth actually was born=native=natural born then there would be only 2 categories of native & foreign.

The earlier records are classified by households & the household was either native or foreign/alien so I guess we can put to rest the drones ignorance in believing that the framers adopted some feudal definition of citizen.

87 posted on 03/03/2010 2:31:27 AM PST by patlin (1st SCOTUS of USA: "Human life, from its commencement to its close, is protected by the common law.")
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To: SatinDoll

I would have thunk people who put things into in the format of the Brothers Grimm were dang few also.

parsy, who is disappointed


88 posted on 03/03/2010 2:44:24 AM PST by parsifal (Abatis: Rubbish in front of a fort, to prevent the rubbish outside from molesting the rubbish inside)
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To: patlin

Interesting, but I think it is a stretch.

parsy, whose cat, Barack, just woke him up


89 posted on 03/03/2010 2:46:39 AM PST by parsifal (Abatis: Rubbish in front of a fort, to prevent the rubbish outside from molesting the rubbish inside)
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To: patlin

And before I forget, I am going to try to get back to the dream I was in. Which was weird. I was on a date with the girl who played Susie Wong in the movie. We went to the pizza parlor and ran into Jenna Jameson.

We went back to Jenna’s apartment, and she started to show us some of the secrets of the adult film industry. She pulled out the lamp from the Christmas Story(?) the one with Darin McGavin(?) and the B B gun. Anyway, she pulled out that lamp and told us that was what they used for close up shots.

I can figure out the Susie Wong thing. I can even sort of figure out how Jenna got into it. But I am just lost as to that stupid lamp.

parsy, who is trying to get back into that dream.....


90 posted on 03/03/2010 2:59:52 AM PST by parsifal (Abatis: Rubbish in front of a fort, to prevent the rubbish outside from molesting the rubbish inside)
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To: edge919

It is the same way Hitler rose to power. Lets pray that it is not the same way Obama stays in power.


91 posted on 03/03/2010 4:50:38 AM PST by castlegreyskull
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To: patlin
Another thing to look for are children who were naturalized when their father/mother were natrualized. Children born in the US to immigrating parents during the five year residency requirement set in 1802 became naturalized American citizens when their fathers/mothers became naturalized citizens.

The same naturalized couple often had older children who were naturalized citizens [born during naturalization] and younger children who were natural born [born after naturalization].

These children born during their parents' 5 year residency requirement were/are probably the ones that Obamabots erroneously call "native-born" citizens when in truth they are/were really "naturalized citizens" -- naturalized when their parents were naturalized.

[Please Be Advised: This post is protected by the SMWSS: the Selective Misspelled Wurd Security System. Words are selectively misspelled to prevent persnickety prattlers in cyberspace from reading it.]

92 posted on 03/03/2010 6:12:36 AM PST by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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To: castlegreyskull

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-backroom/2461337/posts

It gets interesting in the 100s.


93 posted on 03/03/2010 6:21:43 AM PST by little jeremiah (Asato Ma Sad Gamaya Tamaso Ma Jyotir Gamaya)
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To: edge919

I assume many of them know he is lying and actually ineligible but they don’t care.


94 posted on 03/03/2010 6:23:59 AM PST by little jeremiah (Asato Ma Sad Gamaya Tamaso Ma Jyotir Gamaya)
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To: mojitojoe
I really hate grammar whores but in your case, I will make an exception since you are an Curious George...

Reading your grammar correcting post, that "an" just jumped out at me.

I hate grammar whores too 'cause I make my share of mistakes.

95 posted on 03/03/2010 7:17:28 AM PST by lucysmom
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To: patlin
Now, if the definition of citizen at birth actually was born=native=natural born then there would be only 2 categories of native & foreign.

Depends on the reason the question was asked.

96 posted on 03/03/2010 7:22:11 AM PST by lucysmom
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To: parsifal

Three dupe posts = per word.


97 posted on 03/03/2010 9:50:54 AM PST by edge919
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To: patlin

If I follow, these three categories are essentially:

1) Natural born

2) Naturalized

3) Dual citizen (obviously there’s nothing inherently natural about dual citizenship)


98 posted on 03/03/2010 9:54:22 AM PST by edge919
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To: edge919

I know. I swear I ain’t doing it on purpose. BTW, did you like the Three Little Birthers story?

parsy, who was kinda proud of it....


99 posted on 03/03/2010 9:56:49 AM PST by parsifal (Abatis: Rubbish in front of a fort, to prevent the rubbish outside from molesting the rubbish inside)
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To: David
McCain was in fact (according to his posted birth certificate) not born in the Canal Zone at all but instead was born in a private hospital in Colon, Panama

Give it up. The city of Colon on the Atlantic side of the isthmus was inside the Panama Canal Zone. The Panama Canal Company on the birth certificate was the operating entity of the canal and the surrounding territory of the canal zone.

When you don't know what you are talking about, it is best to stop talking.

100 posted on 03/03/2010 9:59:38 AM PST by oldbill
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