[patlin]

Nocturnal grandma here, lol. When you can't sleep...READ...

Boring census records. Well, instead of putting me to sleep it revealed some rather interesting statistics.

The births were classified according to the nationality of the parent and were broken down into 3 categories:

Native...Foreign...Mixed/One Parent Foreign

The records are from 1849-1863

http://books.google.com/books?printsec=frontcover&pg=PT361&id=LvGPEgEu7ysC#v=onepage&q=&f=false

The 1870, 1880, 1890, 1900, 1910 & 1920 census records also break down the births according to the nationality of the parents.

Now, if the definition of citizen at birth actually was born=native=natural born then there would be only 2 categories of native & foreign.

The earlier records are classified by households & the household was either native or foreign/alien so I guess we can put to rest the drones ignorance in believing that the framers adopted some feudal definition of citizen.

[parsifal]

Interesting, but I think it is a stretch.

parsy, whose cat, Barack, just woke him up

[parsifal]

And before I forget, I am going to try to get back to the dream I was in. Which was weird. I was on a date with the girl who played Susie Wong in the movie. We went to the pizza parlor and ran into Jenna Jameson.

We went back to Jenna’s apartment, and she started to show us some of the secrets of the adult film industry. She pulled out the lamp from the Christmas Story(?) the one with Darin McGavin(?) and the B B gun. Anyway, she pulled out that lamp and told us that was what they used for close up shots.

I can figure out the Susie Wong thing. I can even sort of figure out how Jenna got into it. But I am just lost as to that stupid lamp.

parsy, who is trying to get back into that dream.....

[Uncle Chip]

Another thing to look for are children who were naturalized when their father/mother were natrualized. Children born in the US to immigrating parents during the five year residency requirement set in 1802 became naturalized American citizens when their fathers/mothers became naturalized citizens.

The same naturalized couple often had older children who were naturalized citizens [born during naturalization] and younger children who were natural born [born after naturalization].

These children born during their parents' 5 year residency requirement were/are probably the ones that Obamabots erroneously call "native-born" citizens when in truth they are/were really "naturalized citizens" -- naturalized when their parents were naturalized.

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[lucysmom]

Now, if the definition of citizen at birth actually was born=native=natural born then there would be only 2 categories of native & foreign.

Depends on the reason the question was asked.

[edge919]

If I follow, these three categories are essentially:

1) Natural born

2) Naturalized

3) Dual citizen (obviously there’s nothing inherently natural about dual citizenship)

[SatinDoll]

‘Natural born citizen’ has no special import other than as an eligibility requirement for serving as President of the Unitied States.

All types of citizenship have equal rights. Fact is, there is no “right” to be President.