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1 posted on 03/01/2010 9:36:30 AM PST by Notoriously Conservative
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To: Notoriously Conservative

this can’t be real


2 posted on 03/01/2010 9:38:15 AM PST by brwnsuga (No Fear!!!!)
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Sounds like there has to be a conspiracy to kill the baby. Hopefully it will be laid out that women who have natural miscarriages, as my first wife had, will be exempt.


3 posted on 03/01/2010 9:38:25 AM PST by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: Notoriously Conservative

An appropriate title for this matter is

None Dare Call it Slavery.


4 posted on 03/01/2010 9:40:06 AM PST by OldNavyVet
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To: Notoriously Conservative

this can’t be real


5 posted on 03/01/2010 9:40:21 AM PST by brwnsuga (Black and Free!!!)
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Not a good law, but for other reasons. During pregnancy, and for a while thereafter, a small percentage of women can go temporarily insane due to extreme hormonal fluctuations.

And having met one severe example of this, I do not use the words “temporarily insane” lightly. She ambushed and attempted to kill her husband while in a shrieking rage, in which she was incoherent and unresponsive. When properly medicated, she was back to normal.

This is not a good reason to criminally punish someone.

To make matters worse, the number one form of mental illness is severe depression and despondency, not a good frame of mind to be in when undergoing a major physical and psychological stress.

The law should be rewritten so that women in the later stages of pregnancy, or for a few weeks thereafter, if they attempt some action like this, they should be given a physical and psychological examination. And only if they are shown to be normal should there be any criminal evaluation made about this type of behavior.


11 posted on 03/01/2010 9:48:52 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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For once, the feminists and activists are right. If I understand the story correctly, and excuse me the pun, after the law having been passed the road is wide open for any kind of legal miscarriages.

Anyone with an IQ above 80 can willfully construe a case against a woman who lost a child this way. The possibilities for lying and setting someone up are literally endless. One just needs to be skilled in ‘creating the proper context’ and find one or two others prepared to bear false witness.

This is a prime example of good intentions having hellish consequences.


13 posted on 03/01/2010 9:52:25 AM PST by Ayn And Milton
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Lawmakers were responding to the case of a 17-year-old pregnant Utah woman who paid a man $150 to assault her physically in the hope that the beating would cause her to miscarry.

The Left is in hysterics if they think this should be a protected "right".

14 posted on 03/01/2010 9:52:58 AM PST by a fool in paradise
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Its OK to have an abortion and deliberately murder your unborn baby in Utah...

and Romney “sustains” Roe V Wade...

Just dont have an a unplanned and unavoidable miscarriage and lose the baby you are looking forward to...

Something is sick in that state...


15 posted on 03/01/2010 9:53:32 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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This is a pro-life law. Here is a link to the bill itself.
17 posted on 03/01/2010 10:10:01 AM PST by acipher
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Regardless of the slant of the article, there is definitely some potential here for abuse. Does this mean police will be investigating every miscarriage in UT?



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21 posted on 03/01/2010 10:45:21 AM PST by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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Lawmakers were responding to the case of a 17-year-old pregnant Utah woman who paid a man $150 to assault her physically in the hope that the beating would cause her to miscarry. The child was born anyway and put up for adoption. And while the man involved is currently behind bars, prosecutors found they had no basis in state law to prosecute the young woman. She was in her seventh month when she tried to terminate her pregnancy.

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Good intentions don't always result in good legislation, unfortunately.

23 posted on 03/01/2010 10:48:48 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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Some say this could include drinking one glass of wine too many, walking on an icy pavement or skiing.

If this is true, the law is bad. Prosecutors will always press new laws to their most absurd limits. It is in their blood. They cannot help themselves.
26 posted on 03/01/2010 10:57:55 AM PST by microgood
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