The reason why Democrats and Republicans act the same when they get elected

Big Bureaucracy ^ | February 24th, 2010 | Ellie Velinska

[Big Bureaucracy]

The U.S. Constitution gives the President the power to appoint individuals to government positions including personal advisers without congressional approval (the so-called czars). The system is called patronage and some may say it invites corruption, but the Constitution provisioned such system so the newly elected officials can have the power to implement changes they promised to the people. Every election at the beginning of America meant a sweep in the Washington DC bureaucracy. Elections were often and many servants had to clean up their desks and go back to their life beyond the federal government.

It all changed when in 1883 the Civil Service Commission was established. The Pendleton Act created a different class of federal government bureaucrats – those who were supposed to be neutral politically, passed an examination and were welcomed to stay behind their desks until needed. And God knows those career bureaucrats made everything possible to make sure they are needed forever. Until then every election gave the voters a chance to kick out the ruling party (from the president and Congress to the last staffer) out of office.

...The career bureaucrats were not supposed to be associated with a political agenda. They had their own agenda: to keep their positions important, so the next party that comes to power cannot get rid of them. Career bureaucrats thrive when they come up with a problem that needs fixing. First they form a task-force, and then they turn it into a government program. When the new baby bureaucracy grows big enough to start walking independently it turns into an agency. The agencies that survive few election changes turn into full- blown Departments that focus on new problems and create the new task forces of the future federal programs, agencies and departments.......

[Mr. K]

I think we need a new revolution

[DarthVader]

Czars must be accountable to Congress and that is Consitutional. No “ifs, ands or buts”.

[Alaphiah123]

There has been a Liberal ascendancy for over 25 years in Congress Liberals are moving further to the left as Progressives to their most far extreme radical left-wing of Obama, Pelosi and Reed.

Republicans are moving to the left as RINOs. The Republicans are in trouble to the extent that they mimic Democrat Liberal behaviors.

Scott Brown, Susan Collins, Olympia Snowe and the like are what is wrong with the Republican Party.

We don't need Compassionate Conservatives, or Progressive Conservatives all of that is already in the Democrat camp.

All that a hypenated-Conservative really means is that one is liberal on social issues while being a fiscal Conservative.

Which is impossible because all of the liberal social agenda items have to be paid for like the second stimulus package that Brown,Snowe and Collins just voted on with their Democrat allies.

Which means that Liberal get their agenda funded while Conservatism suffers.

So Republicans who act like Democrats after they are elected are just those who have accepted the lefts social agenda to the rejection of Conservatism.

That is why it is important to elect social Conservatives if we what to change things

[Brugmansian]

Article neglects to mention the bureaucracy is liberal. Take the NTEU for example. Republicans are viewed as transients. Ollie North spoke of it once. He was making the point, as I recall to some “civil servant” and got the reply “You are only here for a while, we are here forever”.

When FDR was elected he lamented he had 5,000 or so slots to fill and five times than number showed up. Those New Deal lovers never left. They stayed in D.C., interbred, encouraged more like them to come in and there they squat.

[Big Bureaucracy]

I feel your pain. Scott Brown turned from “the man with the truck” into “the man with the seat” very quickly

[Big Bureaucracy]

The biggest problem with the giant Washington DC Bureaucracy is that it is permanent and the federal employees union makes it imposible to fire somebody.

You can’t make a new brothel with the same whores.

[hoosierham]

The Civil Service is just another example where the cure was worse than the problem;at the very least the old spoils of the election meant a different set of crooks had a chance,thus lessening the concentration of power.

The founders were not fools;technology may change but human nature was already known in Biblical times.

[Big Bureaucracy]

I agree - every solutions breeds new problems.

[Brugmansian]

The unions are certainly the problem. But the fact the members vote for and donate to Democrats by overwhelming margins is the underlying problem, If they were split as the rest of the country is, the situation would be much better (but they will never split because they live off taxpayer money and will never vote not to give themselves more of it).

Democrats couldn't be elected anywhere except in parochial backwaters such as NYC and San Francisco without government unions. Obama wouldn't be in there today without AFSCME, the NEA, the NTEU, SEIU, CCPOA and so on (I don't know how many of these monstrosities there are but there are too many).

[Big Bureaucracy]

The whole bureaucracy is so big - it is impossible to observe in one glance

[Dead Corpse]

Bureau of Alcohol.
Bureau of Alcohol and Tobacco.
Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms.
Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives.

Mission creep? Yeah... It's a bit of an issue and it's getting people killed.

[Big Bureaucracy]

add also the sugar drinks and lolly-pops

[Alaphiah123]

All media hype real Conservatives knew that Brown was a RINO he said that he would be voting with Democrats straight out. Only the uninformed didn’t know. I warned of it myself. But he is better than the alternative.

Baby steps back to Conservatism is better than no steps at all!