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Bill Nye the Science Guy Clobbered in Debate Against Meteorologist Joe Bastardi Over Global Warming
Associated Content (AC) ^ | February 23, 2010 | Marc Schenker

Posted on 02/23/2010 2:05:30 AM PST by Suvroc10

Bill Nye the Science Guy was totally clobbered in a debate against meteorologist Joe Bastardi from AccuWeather over global warming on the O'Reilly Factor last night. The utterly mortifying results of this debate are what occur when an actual scientist with a degree in meteorology, Joe Bastardi, debates a pro-global warming, self-professed "scientist" in Bill Nye whose biggest claim to fame, ridiculously, was hosting a pre-teen kids show on PBS during the 90s. Bill Nye, of course, shocked his one or two, remaining fans (who can even remember him) from his 90s TV show when he went on Rachel Maddow's program on MSNBC on February 10 and assaulted Americans who disbelieve in global warming as somehow being unpatriotic. Note to Bill Nye: Don't quit your day job of being a has-been, 90s TV-show host for pre-teen kids and instead leave the climate science to meteorologists like Joe Bastardi, who actually are educated in weather patterns!

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To: Suvroc10

when he went on Rachel Maddow’s program on MSNBC on February 10 and assaulted Americans who disbelieve in global warming as somehow being unpatriotic.

If there is anyone that hates America more then that cow Maddow and works to dismatle it, I would be shocked...


41 posted on 02/23/2010 4:33:22 AM PST by SECURE AMERICA
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To: Suvroc10

I hope Glenn Beck was listening in.

Just saying......


42 posted on 02/23/2010 4:38:28 AM PST by Scotswife
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To: Mouton
Yes, I tried to never miss Mr Wizard. (a lot depended if the TV was working that day. 'darn' vacuum tubes)

And if Nye used Venus as an example, he's a doofus. And a 'science' idiot. There is no comparison between Earth and Venus. Not CO2, not 'greenhouse' effect, not anything, and not in a million years.

Bill Nye, 'the science guy' should watch the 'SCIENCE CHANNEL'.

They just ran a series last week on 'The Planets'. Venus was naturally covered and a real scientist (/s) explained the Venus Atmosphere issues from pressure (90 Earth Atmosphere's), to the surface temperature (900oF), to CO2 and other gases that would kill us.

The CO2 level on Venus would be the least of our problems.

43 posted on 02/23/2010 4:44:37 AM PST by Condor51 (The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits [A. Einstein])
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To: Suvroc10
I have, in my honest opinion, a set of valid and required "YES" questions for Global Warming. This is my litmus test for the need to fix the problem with my money.

1) Is there Global Warming and is it out of line with past trends and historical data? [This is the now greatly disputed "Hockey Stick".]
2) How great is the danger and how consistent is the measurements? [Feet of sea level increase = Danger, Centimeters of localized = no danger.]
3) What are the tests to prove this trend and are they based on commonly available data and do they accurately track current trends from a starting point of 10 to 50 years back as a starting point?
4) What evidence is there that these trends are SPECIFICALLY Anthropogenic (man-made / caused [AGW]) versus natural actions?
5) What is the actual cost to the human population and the ecosystem if these AGW trends continue over decades?
6) What costs are we being asked to bear to fix this AGW and are they proportional to both the problem, our proven impact on the problem and the contributions made by others?
7) Will the fixes made to combat AGW have a real and measurable effect in a defined period of time?
8) Do the proponents of these fixes stand ready to make their own sacrifices in the name of this crisis they are proclaiming? What will they do or say if they are proven wrong?

My personal suggestion for #8 would be a period of several days / weeks in the public stocks in terms of public humiliation. My current belief right now is that this is a scientific theory that has been seized by alarmists and statists who have seen it as a convenient tool for funding and control.

44 posted on 02/23/2010 4:56:43 AM PST by SES1066 (Cycling to conserve, Conservative to save, Saving to Retire, will Retire to Cycle.)
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To: vanilla swirl

I think this is it: http://www.youtube.com/watch#playnext=1&playnext_from=TL&videos=fSjQDa7Cbio&v=aV0xwfZpiYo


45 posted on 02/23/2010 5:00:01 AM PST by mirkwood
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To: Berlin_Freeper
Was it like Epic Beard-Man?

Epic Weather Man!

:-)

46 posted on 02/23/2010 5:02:09 AM PST by Charles Martel ("Endeavor to persevere...")
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To: CriticalJ

He was a grad student at Penn State. He did the PBS weather for Pennsylvania at 6:00 PM. Pennsylvania stopped when he was on.


47 posted on 02/23/2010 5:06:56 AM PST by bmwcyle (Free the Navy Seals)
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To: Suvroc10

I rarely watch that show, but I happened to be in room where others were. I remembered that Nye was a warmist so I stuck around.

Bastardi simply clobbered Nye. He out-scienced him. In addition, he spoke twice as fast and in authoritative terms, and made Nye look like a wimpy pencilneck. Nye did OK retaining his composure, but was saved from sinking into ad hominem by an interruption by BOR. He was about to begin ranting about the source of skeptic funding - undoubtedly coal or oil companies - but time constraints prevented that lame ploy.


48 posted on 02/23/2010 5:07:49 AM PST by qwertypie
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To: Suvroc10

And of course Bill Nye used the boilerplate AGW opening line “The evidence is overwhelming...”


49 posted on 02/23/2010 5:08:31 AM PST by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: SamAdams76

“Joe’s a good guy. In his blog yesterday, he compared his performance in the debate to “beating up on the Easter bunny.”...

He is a great guy and is one of the few meterologists to state: “we don’t know” when trying to make a forecast.

Can’t wait to watch this; missed it the first time around


50 posted on 02/23/2010 5:10:58 AM PST by homegroan (*Vote Squirrel 2012*!....ILLIGITIMA NON CARBORUNDUM..... -that's 4U Dad!))
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To: Suvroc10

“The utterly mortifying results of this debate are what occur when an actual scientist with a degree in meteorology”

Being a weatherman does not necessarily make you a scientist nor does having a degree in meteorology. Our local stations “weather forecasters” all have meteorology degrees (likely Bachelors degrees) since they appear to be in their early 20s. Its a job requirement, not a profession.


51 posted on 02/23/2010 5:59:00 AM PST by Hacklehead (Liberalism is the art of taking what works, breaking it, and then blaming conservatives.)
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To: Suvroc10

I think Bastardi was the one who was clobbered: (1) because he had poor command of his visual props, and whipped through them and (2) Nye was slower and calmer and seemed more confident (decades of TV training).


52 posted on 02/23/2010 6:00:26 AM PST by montag813
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To: Suvroc10

In the future, place your blog material in our bloggers forum.

Thanks,


53 posted on 02/23/2010 6:01:29 AM PST by Admin Moderator
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To: montag813

I can’t agree or disagree with you because I barely understood anything either of them said.


54 posted on 02/23/2010 6:04:39 AM PST by csmusaret (Sarah Palin thinks everyday in America is the 4th of July. Obama thinks it is April 15th.)
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To: Suvroc10
I couldn't watch it, the slaughter was too much. Bill Nye went into an arena for which is was not prepared. He's terrific in his program with a written, prepared script with editing and post-production. But he can't go into a live boxing match on live tv.

Joe Bastardi's been doing this for years. Did Bill Nye survive? I didn't see the end.

55 posted on 02/23/2010 6:11:49 AM PST by Jabba the Nutt (Are they insane, stupid or just evil?)
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To: Cincinatus; Condor51

Regarding Venus, that could be used to counter global warming if we wanted.

I don’t have time to do the math myself, but from wiki:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunlight

Venus - 2647-2576 W/m2
Earth - 1413-1321 W/m2

So Venus receives about twice as much solar radiation as the earth does. So the sun has a huge impact in “global warming.”


56 posted on 02/23/2010 6:12:44 AM PST by Gvl_M3
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To: Gvl_M3
*** I don’t have time to do the math myself, but from wiki:***

Shame on you. You know you can't bring things like actual laws of Physics into the Global Warming 'debate'.

Real Science makes the cultist's heads explode.
(they are living proof of the Einstein quote I have as my Tagline. Stupidity has no limits.
;-)

57 posted on 02/23/2010 6:31:54 AM PST by Condor51 (The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits [A. Einstein])
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To: Las Vegas Dave
Number one, El Nino had a role because its state, currently, mirrored conditions in the 60s and 70s when there was a lot of...snow..... Then, solar cycles apparently are behaving in a way that’s similar to colder conditions.

All that is correct. The previous solar cycle 23 is very similar to solar cycle 20. They were both moderate peak cycles that were followed by very extended and wide minimum cycles. That means the winter of 77/78 corresponds to the same conditions of this 09/10 winter. The El Nino was also moderate during both of these winter periods. Where they will differ is this spring. The 77/78 El Nino faded for a few months and then came back. The 09/10 El Nino does not appear to have that unusual mid-term fade. That means that this 2010 spring will have more El Nino distributed moisture then the 1978 spring. Actually Cycle 23 to 24 minimum was longer then the the 20 to 21 minimum. So we are currently having one of the coldest solar springs occurring with a moderate El Nino. Might be first time in the era of satellites. Should be interesting to say the least. We have a blizzard for the Yankees coming later in the week, a snow storm currently for the Texans and a monster blizzard with the potential to be the strongest yet of the season hitting the Yankees as a Nor'easter early next week.

BTW - In between the two weaker cycles 20 and 23, solar cycles 21 and 22 both had strong maximums followed by very short minimums. Those cycles probably played a significant role in our warming toward the end of the last century.

58 posted on 02/23/2010 6:38:39 AM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: Hacklehead

You raise a good point. Neither of these guys has a post graduate degree in anything.


59 posted on 02/23/2010 6:41:25 AM PST by Mr. Lucky
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To: All

bumpola


60 posted on 02/23/2010 6:58:10 AM PST by Maverick68
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