Beam me to Planet Gore !
Posted on 02/23/2010 2:05:30 AM PST by Suvroc10
Bill Nye the Science Guy was totally clobbered in a debate against meteorologist Joe Bastardi from AccuWeather over global warming on the O'Reilly Factor last night. The utterly mortifying results of this debate are what occur when an actual scientist with a degree in meteorology, Joe Bastardi, debates a pro-global warming, self-professed "scientist" in Bill Nye whose biggest claim to fame, ridiculously, was hosting a pre-teen kids show on PBS during the 90s. Bill Nye, of course, shocked his one or two, remaining fans (who can even remember him) from his 90s TV show when he went on Rachel Maddow's program on MSNBC on February 10 and assaulted Americans who disbelieve in global warming as somehow being unpatriotic. Note to Bill Nye: Don't quit your day job of being a has-been, 90s TV-show host for pre-teen kids and instead leave the climate science to meteorologists like Joe Bastardi, who actually are educated in weather patterns!
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It must have been roughly equivalent to Ronald Reagan (in his prime) debating some 1960s hippie drop-out on the merits of communism.
video?
FOX has the video up.
It was like Muhammad Ali’s comeback fight against Larry Holmes.
There’s a link to the video on the Fox News website on the last paragraph of the article.
Bill Nye the Science Guy was totally clobbered in a debate against meteorologist Joe Bastardi from AccuWeather over global warming on the O’Reilly Factor last night. The utterly mortifying results of this debate are what occur when an actual scientist with a degree in meteorology, Joe Bastardi, debates a pro-global warming, self-professed “scientist” in Bill Nye whose biggest claim to fame, ridiculously, was hosting a pre-teen kids show on PBS during the 90s. Bill Nye, of course, shocked his one or two, remaining fans (who can even remember him) from his 90s TV show when he went on Rachel Maddow’s program on MSNBC on February 10 and assaulted Americans who disbelieve in global warming as somehow being unpatriotic. Note to Bill Nye: Don’t quit your day job of being a has-been, 90s TV-show host for pre-teen kids and instead leave the climate science to meteorologists like Joe Bastardi, who actually are educated in weather patterns!
According to Bastardi, the reason behind the recent Snowpocalypse in the mid-Atlantic that paralyzed things with severe blizzards for a while was threefold. Number one, El Nino had a role because its state, currently, mirrored conditions in the 60s and 70s when there was a lot of...snow. That’s right, just like this year, the mid-Atlantic had a lot of...snow. See, global warming advocates...this isn’t that hard. Then, solar cycles apparently are behaving in a way that’s similar to colder conditions. Finally, soot from volcanic explosions is also playing a role, blocking out the poles over the Arctic in high altitude conditions, which, apparently, helps with the increased snowfall and cooling.
Now, notice how Bastardi, again, for those global warming advocates who might have a hard time putting one and one together, uses science to make his arguments? Got that? Good! Now, for Bill Nye’s lame attempt at a rebuttal. He already made an insurmountable
mistake when he started it off by arrogantly declaring that the evidence is “overwhelming.” Just like there’s a so-called, mythical “consensus,” right Bill Nye, the Junk Science Guy? Not content to look incredible, Nye then turned to a fancy-schmancy prop (Seriously, folks, who in their right mind brings props to a debate on the O’Reilly Factor? First time I’ve ever seen that.) that he must’ve prepared himself in his basement or garage just before air time. He claimed that it proved that carbon dioxide levels increased from 1750 to today. However, the huge problem with this is how unscientific it was: Nye never divulged how he came to these results unlike Bastardi, who at least had his meteorological data to back up his assertions! Further, Nye completely killed off any vestiges of remaining credibility when he put all his trust into a chart from the IPCC...again, seriously. We all know that the IPCC has been relentlessly shamed for dubious research methods and sourcing (like including non-peer reviewed papers), so basing anything off a chart of theirs is misleading at worst, highly doubtful at best.
Bastardi, again, because he’s actually a scientist with credentials in the weather field and thus can speak more authoritatively than the has-been host of a 90s kids show, hammered Nye hard in his counterattack. This time, Bastardi went to more hard data—unlike the IPCC chart-clinging Nye who even interrupted Bastardi at one point and looked angry when O’Reilly had to “shush” him like you would a little child who spoke out of turn—to make the point that the effects of global warming are moot. That is to say, when you factor in the sun, the oceans, volcanic activity and even a natural reversal of cycles, you’d still only get an effect less than “the yearly human contribution equal to the width of a hair on a 1 KM bridge of trace gas needed for life.” Again...negligible as far as global warming is concerned!
Back to Nye it went for another rebuttal, and this has-been from a 90s kids show couldn’t stop using the completely discredited charts and “reports” from the IPCC (Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change). I refuse to waste my time or yours by listing all their black eyes here; just do a Google search with “IPCC” and “scandal” and be stunned at the number of precise results you get. Aside from this, Nye then went on to shamelessly mischaracterize completely the Climategate scandal, branding it as, essentially, name-calling between scientists, but Climategate centered around damning e-mails from scientists essentially confessing they cooked up data in favor of global warming. Not happy with implicating himself as a completely poor debater, Nye then proceeded to confirm in the minds of viewers what a total global warming shill he is—and thus not one to be taken seriously—by playing conspiracy theorist. He actually asked, rhetorically, in whose best interest it was for global warming to be denied...like the camp who rightly doesn’t believe in global warming is somehow agenda-driven. This is just insanity from an avowed left-winger in Bill Nye the Junk Science Guy.
Based on this debate, it’s beyond clear how each side in the global warming debate...debates. The skeptical side as represented by Bastardi in this exchange, uses science, data and actual research based on decades of work to make their arguments. Bill Nye the Junk Science
Guy’s side of fanatical, global warming advocates uses, like the blind lemmings they are, IPCC “data” and then mindlessly parrots the BS how the evidence in their camp is “overwhelming.” You folks will make your own minds up, but for my money, it’s clear that the pro-global warming side are thugs in a debate. They cut you off, they arrogantly declare the science is settled, and they have no facts. This also proves how global warming is viewed as a cult by some because the belief in it by adherents like Bill Nye is just insane.
LV Dave, thanks for posting the entire review!
Overwhelming evidence does not need to be bolstered by fraudulent data. End of discussion.
Caught the morning repeat. Fabulous!
Youtube it and make it viral!
Well now,,,Bastardi finally got one rite,,,Nye is an Idiot.
I watch FR Hurricane threads for good info,,,
No BOR in this house,,,Lib POS...
Bill Nye the Liar Guy.
Was it like Epic Beard-Man?
LoL!
That was a good one.
I didn’t think he was clobbered. I think the other guy, Bastardi, had a better presentation. Nye did well, though. He, too, had data on hand. He just couldn’t articulate it as well as Bastardi did.
Clobbered? Too extreme a take on what transpired. I am not a warmist. And, I would have been happy to have Bastardi clobber Nye.
In all fairness to Nye, the guy has a degree in engineering and worked for years in the aerospace industry, including a few things with NASA. I'm not saying he's right on global warming (I think he's wrong) or that he has more expertise than a trained meteorologist (I think he doesn't), but this is cheap shot journalism by Schenker.
BTW, according to Wiki, Carl Sagan was one of Nye's professors at Cornell. This would explain much of Nye's views on the subject. As brilliant as Sagan was, he made some breathtakingly wrong predictions on the environment - such as his doomsday weather forecast for the Gulf after Saddam set fire to the oil wells during Desert Storm.
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