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That's the whole issue in a nut shell no matter where the bamster was born.

He is not a NBC even if he was born in Hawaii.

I would be interesting though to see him release the original and find that it is different from the one that they admitted to posting on the Internet, FRAUD.

He is not a NBC even if he was born in Hawaii.

I am speaking as a lawyer here, so don't start calling me an Obot. People pay my firm lots of money for my opinion of what the courts will do; nobody cares about my opinion of what the courts should do.

Having said all that, I think that (assuming Obama was born in Hawaii) the NBC issue is a non-starter.

Obama made no secret of the fact that his father was a Kenyan. Despite that fact being widely known, no one challenged his right to run-- not one of his primary opponents, not McCain or Palin in the general election, not one member of the electoral college, not one member of Congress when the electoral votes were counted, not Vice President Cheney when he certified the electoral vote, not Chief Justice Roberts when he swore him in. During the whole primary and general election campaign, not one judge or law professor wrote a law review article or even an op-ed piece suggesting that Obama wasn't eligible-- not even conservative legal scholars like Ken Starr or Robert Bork.

Given those facts, I think there is zero chance that any court would find that Obama isn't a NBC (again, assuming he was born in Hawaii).

I would be interesting though to see him release the original and find that it is different from the one that they admitted to posting on the Internet, FRAUD.

I don't believe any court will hear any eleigibility case on the merits until and unless Obama runs for re-election. At that time, I'm sure some candidate on the ballot (probably not the Republican) will bring a proper election-law challenge to Obama's eligibility.

When that happens, my prediction is that Obama will present an official Hawaiian short-form COLB-- like the one he posted on the internet, but with an official raised seal from Hawaii. At that point, he will claim that he has no obligation to produce a long form, because the short form is valid under Hawaiian law and the Constitution therefore requires every other state to give it "Full Faith and Credit." That will be an interesting court fight.

He is not a NBC even if he was born in Hawaii.

Exactly.

There are three "types" of citizens listed in The Constitution, and subsequent Amendments:

Natural born citizen (Article II, Section 1)
Person born citizen (XIV Amendment)
Natuturalized citizen (XIV Amendment

Some wish to make the argument that since (or if) Obama was born in Hawaii, he satisfies the Constitutional requirement.

But...the XIV Amendment makes a "person born" citizen, and a "naturalized" citizen equal in every aspect, so it follows then that if being born on US soil translates into being a natural born citizen, then a naturalized citizen can be President.

Requiem æternam dona eis, Domine; In memoria æterna erit justus, ab auditione mala non timebit.

Beauseant!