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Glenn Beck is irresponsible in his leadership
me ^ | 02/18/10 | Jen Kuznicki

Posted on 02/18/2010 3:48:06 PM PST by jenk

Glenn Beck, the latest phenom of the Conservative Movement, jumps the shark nearly every week.

I have not been a fan of his. That said, I believe he is putting the movement in jeopardy.

You could spend a whole day surfing youtube for his latest outlandish behavior, but I do not fault him for that. In the entertainment industry, it is necessary to put on some sort of showmanship. I don’t personally like his brand, but I would not bicker over personal taste.

The problem I see is that he is not uplifting. He is more libertarian than conservative, but his message always seems to end up with the viewer or listener commiserating with him. As if he has accepted being the shepard and just aims to console rather than inspire.

It is not a good path for someone who commands as great an audience as he has.

Beck should lead like a parent, allowing his audience to understand that while exposing what the administration is doing, he encourages them to want to do something about it. He does not do that, instead, he nurtures inaction. Sitting around and learning bad things then mourning for their country will drive people to drink and continue to want to commiserate with others who do the same and cycle continues. The only stimulating thing Beck has done has to do with driving people toward Ron Paul, which is just disgraceful, especially since the Paul followers are isolationists and security-challenged.

I take serious offense with his continuous drive toward a third party. That idea is reprehensible and he should know better, and has been pulled by the ear by many conservatives because of it. Yet, he continues. He seems able enough to repeat quotes from serious scholars and thinkers without telling his audience who said it first, but he hasn’t an inkling how to listen to the message these thinkers give.

Many have wondered if he is just in “it” for himself. There is nothing wrong with being a capitalist, but to steal and put up fronts is no way to lead. The worst kind of capitalist is one who does not govern himself first. Perhaps that is why he doesn’t inspire his viewers and listeners. He doesn’t know how.

Look, I know he has had a past that included drugs and alcohol, and I do not fault him for that. People in glass houses and so on, but his direction is no longer humorous.

Being in management myself, I have always employed the idea of hiring your replacement, then staying one step ahead of them. It encourages healthy competition and drives the best to the top. Sarah Palin was just hired by Fox. If she is given any kind of freedom there, Beck is toast.

I watched the Constitution Town Hall that Hillsdale College gave a while back, and Dr. Larry Arnn said that in order to move the country to where it needs to go, which is toward the Constitution and the Founding, it is going to take a lot of thinking. Mr. Beck needs to start doing that.


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To: NautiNurse
Your disdain for him is misplaced because he doesn't fulfill your need for him to lead you.

My disdain for him is because he is irresponsible.

He does not fulfill his responsibility that he is a leader.

Every time somebody speaks up, a percentage of people will see them as a leader.

Beck is about Beck and any airy whim or thought that goes through his head falls out of his mouth, and since he is given such a platform, many believe and try to follow his every word.

201 posted on 02/19/2010 3:08:29 AM PST by jenk (REMEMBER MASSACHUSETTS!!)
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To: fish hawk
When you start by saying you don’t like Glenn or his policies, everything after that is void. I see everything just about 180 degrees differently than you do.

That's what you said, earlier. Then you said this-

You lost me on that one??? Beck is for everything you mentioned, and so am I.

202 posted on 02/19/2010 3:14:34 AM PST by jenk (REMEMBER MASSACHUSETTS!!)
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To: alrea

unbelievable


203 posted on 02/19/2010 3:16:01 AM PST by jenk (REMEMBER MASSACHUSETTS!!)
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To: wolf24

disrespectful


204 posted on 02/19/2010 3:17:12 AM PST by jenk (REMEMBER MASSACHUSETTS!!)
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To: jenk

What percentage of people identify Beck as a leader? Who are these people? Why do they view Beck as a leader?


205 posted on 02/19/2010 4:36:16 AM PST by NautiNurse (Obama: A day without TOTUS is like a day without sunshine)
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To: svcw

Beck has never ever ever made the statement that specific Republican individuals are the same as specific Democrat individuals.

He is a libertarian. He has stated both parties are the same, within a certain context. And within context, he is right. The Democrats have grown government large. Yet Bush had both houses of Congress, and he TOO grew government large , massively expanding medicare, many government agencies, spending and debt.

This is the CONTEXT in which he says both parties are the same, and he is right.

Democrats grow government faster and Republicans grow government slower. This is why the Tea Party movement is going after BOTH parties.

Beck is a Libertarian and wants SMALLER government, as man of us do, but BOTH Democrats and Republicans keep steadily growing the size of government, which is the CONTEXT in which Beck says both parties are the same.

People who state Beck says all individuals of both parties and all goals of both parties are the same, are lieing to you. He has never said that.

Beck opposes “Progressives” or socialists. Tell me McCain was not a progressive. You can’t. He was. So we had a Marxist in Obama running against a socialist in McCain.

That is the CONTEXT Beck is talking about.


207 posted on 02/19/2010 7:26:47 AM PST by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (Depression Countdown: 43... 42... 41...)
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To: SoCalPol

Your statement is a flat out lie without putting his specific statements in contest. Flat. Out. Lie.


208 posted on 02/19/2010 7:27:32 AM PST by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (Depression Countdown: 43... 42... 41...)
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To: SoCalPol

And yet he is educating MILLIONS of people like me on his new “finds”.

How many MILLIONS of people have you educated?

How many millions did you teach that Van Jones was an avowed radical communist?

How many millions of people did you educate about all of Obama’s radical Czars?

How many millions of people have you warned that we are heading for catastrophic collapse on the back of unpayable debt if we don’t change course soon?

How many millions of people did you show clips of ACORN criminal activity to alert them to their deep corruption?

How many millions of people have you educated on the insidious activity of SEIU, showing how they are connected at the hip with Obama?

Yes, I’ll watch the SoCalPol show from now on to learn all these things.


209 posted on 02/19/2010 7:34:05 AM PST by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (Depression Countdown: 43... 42... 41...)
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To: sloop

And MANY MANY more times he has said for you not to take his opinions at face value, blindly, but to THINNK FOR YOURSELF and do your own homework. Not just blindly take his word for it.


210 posted on 02/19/2010 7:35:27 AM PST by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (Depression Countdown: 43... 42... 41...)
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To: jenk

Glenn Beck says what others are afraid to say. For this, he should be appreciated. He has informed people of the un-American nature of the progressive movement, and that it exists to some extent in both parties, while controlling the Democrat party. This is information people need.


211 posted on 02/19/2010 7:38:22 AM PST by B Knotts (Calvin Coolidge Republican)
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To: jenk

Oh...and if you don’t like what Glenn Beck is saying on his show, 1) don’t watch it, and 2) get your own show.


212 posted on 02/19/2010 7:39:15 AM PST by B Knotts (Calvin Coolidge Republican)
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To: sloop

You keep harping on Beck for saying both parties are the same.

Are you aware of how many millions of Conservatives have fled the Republican party with those very same feelings. The most far-right hard conservatives I know, the ones who would follow the Constitution the most closely, the ones who hate Obama the most of people I know, the ones who are hardcore Conservatives — they have fled the Republican party and now register as Independents or as “Decline to State”.

One hell of a lot of those people TELL ME that the parties are no different. Why else do you think they have left the Republican party? These are not libertarians but the most Conservative Republicans I’ve known. They think both parties are more or less the same, with the Democrats crashing us into the wall at 120 and the Republicans crashing us into the wall at 80.

You can stay steeped in dellusion, and of course no sane thiking person, of which Beck is only one, would equate all of the extreme liberal policies with the somewhat less extreme things Republicans support (not Conservatives, but blue blood Country Club Republicans).

When people say “both parties are the same”, they expect you to be intelligent enough to deciper the meaning as “both parties are similar, are for big government and trash the Constitution when it suits them, neither party is giving me back my tax money or my freedom”.

Nobody means both parties are clones of each other.


213 posted on 02/19/2010 7:43:48 AM PST by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (Depression Countdown: 43... 42... 41...)
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To: jenk

Please keep in mind that opinions are like rectums: everybody has one.


214 posted on 02/19/2010 7:44:03 AM PST by dearolddad
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To: B Knotts

You have that exactly right when you say Beck says what others are afraid to say.

I remember the 1st time I ever heard him go after ACORN and again when he trashed the ACORN PR guy on his show, to the point the PR guy walked off the set. That was precious.

Anyway, my foremost thought was how stupid Beck was for painting such a huge target on his back. I am shocked that the Soros Socialist cabal that handles both the Clintin and Obama administrations, and the attack dogs they breed, have not been able to bring Beck down yet and get him off the air. I was certain they would try.

I am so cynical these days, the term “arkancide” or “Bamacide” was running through my mind. Nobody in the media that I am aware of has done more to take on ACORN and SEIU and Obama’s close personal Czars right down to his best friend, Vallerie Jarrett, as well as Glenn Beck.

Nobody. Not Rush, who is still carrying the water for the Republicans. Not Hannity, who is committing suicide by having McLame on his show daily, a severe RINO we rejected more than once.

What I get from Beck, I can’t get from any other televised source and comes more succinctly than spending hours and hours scouring the internet.


215 posted on 02/19/2010 7:50:23 AM PST by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (Depression Countdown: 43... 42... 41...)
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free

Has it occurred to you that perhaps Glenn Beck is something the one-worlder cabal want in the spotlight? Because he is marginalizing himself now that he has gone into such detail and overweighted his presentations with his personal opinion. Remember, Glenn Beck is the ‘moron trivia’ star who majored in ridicule and insult. He is also a Mormon and an alcoholic. Such a personality can be manipulated too easily by the disgusting operatives who have zero morals and are motivated by power and or price. Don’t be surprised if one of these mornings you awaken to news that Glenn Beck has been arrested for DUI or has gone into a clinic for psychological treatments.


216 posted on 02/19/2010 7:59:09 AM PST by MHGinTN (Obots, believing they cannot be deceived, it is impossible to convince them when they are deceived.)
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free
no sane thiking person, of which Beck is only one, would equate all of the extreme liberal policies with the somewhat less extreme things Republicans support

wrong

beck is not sane

he does equate the two

you do too

since you are in denial about his clearly stated words, i don't need lectures from you about what is adult

the becktard caucus in congress will be a small one and accomplish nothing - if you want to join in his suicidal rants, feel free - the adults will be trying to do something realistic, taking back the republican party

217 posted on 02/19/2010 1:26:40 PM PST by sloop (pfc in the quiet civil war)
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To: sloop
You feel hopeless because you need someone to tell you what to do. You are looking for a leader on the television.

Sloopy, you agreed with the statement. Then you say it is rude. Make up your flip-flopping mind already.

218 posted on 02/19/2010 2:18:21 PM PST by NautiNurse (Obama: A day without TOTUS is like a day without sunshine)
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To: NautiNurse
so you meant that as a compliment?

i see nothing wrong with people like me - people that are smart enough to know they are not a leader - your statement led me to believe that unless i was a leader, something was wrong with me

you were trying to insult - i called you on it

then i pointed out that even in your insult, you are wrong

too many chiefs and too few indians gets little done

219 posted on 02/19/2010 2:30:09 PM PST by sloop (pfc in the quiet civil war)
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To: ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton

Well if that drunk Rev. Manning hadn’t come out supporting Alex Jones then maybe we could keep both issues separate. And if Debra Medina had not run, it might have kept truthers hiding and away from the Republican party. Now that Truthers are out there and Alex Jones is leading them to support denra Medina and Rev. James David Manning, a birther, supports Jones. We have a problem.


220 posted on 02/20/2010 10:49:22 AM PST by Mozilla
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