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To: PeaRidge
You repeat my source and facts as if they support your contention, but that's nothing more than a pantsload.

Not when looked at rationally.

1. You yourself gave the evidence that the provisional Confederate Congress passed the mechanism by which the Union would be compensated for any claims

What I showed was that any intent there may have been originally to pay for property stolen and debt repudiated was quickly watered down until it was dropped completely in favor of vague platitudes.

2. Jefferson Davis and his people increased the initiative by offering anything that would promote peace, (see your bill reference).

They offered nothing of the sort. They decreased the offer by taking all specifics off the table, changing offers to settle matters relating to property and obligations to discuss settlement of disagreements to the final 'matters of interest to both nations'. There was no interest in settlement, only a demand that the rebel ultimatum be met.

3. They even went further by sending three representatives to Washington, although uninvited, to negotiate.

They sent three people to accept Lincoln's surrender, as Davis' letter said he would. They were not there to negotiate.

Your claim that the initiative went from being “watered down somewhat” to “suddenly specifics were off the table” to “in the end, there was nothing left” is nothing but contrived prevarication.

It is completely accurate. "Watered down" is a polite way of putting it. It would be more accurate to say that your claims that they were there to offer payment is the prevarication. "Prevarication" is a polite way of putting that, too.

Why would the Confederate Congress pass any more legislation, especially when the ball was already rolling.

Especially when all plans to pay for anything had long since been dropped.

Nitwit.

What was that you were asking cowboyway about ad hominums?

At that very moment, the Peace Commissioners had gathered in Washington to carry out the stipulations of the original proclamation and Davis’ government wishes.

To demand Lincoln give in to rebel demands on recognition and nothing else concrete. As the Davis letter makes clear.

March 12, 1861.....”The three Southern Commissioners, Messrs. Crawford, Forsythe, and Roman, all having arrived in Washington, sent their request to the State Department to present their credentials to Mr. Lincoln.

And given their purpose I don't see what there was to talk about. Was an end to secession a topic for discussion? No, only the rebel position was on the table. It was an ultimatum, nothing less.

"By this time, it was now public knowledge that these Confederate commissioners had come to Washington offering payments for apportioned public debt and seized federal property. They were now addressing Secretary of State William Seward with an official letter of intent."

I have no idea what your source for that was, but they obviously didn't read the Davis letter.

312 posted on 02/23/2010 2:48:14 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur
And given their purpose I don't see what there was to talk about.

Precisely! Glad to see that you finally acknowledge that Lincoln wanted nothing less than a full scale war.

"For the purpose of establishing friendly relations between the Confederate States and the United States, and reposing special trust, &c., Martin J. Crawford, John Forsyth, and A. B. Roman are appointed special commissioners of the Confederate States to the United States."

Lincoln's political aspirations did not include 'friendly relations' but it did include the slaughter of 600,000+ people.

They sent three people to accept Lincoln's surrender

Yet more revisionism and lies from the Great Non-sequinator.

I have no idea

Yeah, we know.

but they obviously didn't read the Davis letter.

Nor did you.

328 posted on 02/24/2010 6:44:27 AM PST by cowboyway
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To: Non-Sequitur

Two things.

Your entire post was nothing but your opinion and useless.

None of the Confederate initiatives asked for surrender. That is again your opinion.


424 posted on 02/25/2010 11:40:59 AM PST by PeaRidge
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