Posted on 02/14/2010 7:39:01 PM PST by syc1959
The following is a clear definition of a Natural Born Citizen as one born to two parents (plural) in the House of Representitives
Journal of the House of Representatives of the United States, 1838-1839 MONDAY, January 28, 1839. Mr. Heman Allen submitted the following resolution; which was read, and debate arising, it was laid over, under the rule, viz: Resolved, That the Committee on the Judiciary be instructed to inquire into the expediency of so amending the law on the subject of naturalization, as to exclude those from the privileges of natural-born citizens who are or shall be born of parents
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There ya go again!
No. There I go, still.
Alinski much, Syc?
It can be plain english in front of their face and Obama trolls will say “It doesn’t say that!”.
nope, you do though.
wiggie -english must be your second language cause stupidity seems to be your first.
Yawn
thats right troll, back under your rock....
A lot of pols and Judges are about to be declared guilty of treason.
And did any legislation result from the Judiciary Committee’s looking into the matter?
That's is what this has always been about. Are you listening Bill O'Reilly? It's not about the "phoney certification of live birth" that you claim to have seen. It's about being born to two American-born citizens.
1. Did this resolution ever become an actual law? The article doesn't bother to tell us. I suspect that it did not, because "laid over" means Floor action on an amended bill is postponed for one legislative day. Note that "the rule" under which it was laid over is not defined.
There is no indication that anything ever came of the resolution beyond its being laid over. Unless the author can produce the actual, signed bill that contains this definition, we have to assume that this statement, no matter how suggestive, does not have the force of law.
2. The full text certainly does not support the breathless "game, set, match" nature of the replies. The part you so conveniently left off is that Mr. Allen stated that both parents must have moved away from the US and declared allegiance to another government. Certainly Stanley Ann Dunham does not satisfy that standard -- she was American, and lived in the US.
Conclusion: the author is grasping at straws again.
All we know from the excerpt is that they delayed action on it until at least the next day -- because that's what "laid over" means.
Apparently in birther land, mere mention is sufficient to give certain statements the force of law....
Why was the “parents were not both American” never brought up when he was FIRST declared a candidate? By ANYONE? Was everyone including Hannity afraid to be called a racist? Why didn’t anyone back in 2006-7 ask publicly for the ultimate definition of natural born citizen?
I guess because everyone on the left would have said “You just don’t want him President because he is black.”
Political correctness is more deadly than cancer. It killed all those people in Texas and it apparently trumps everything else in life.
However, if a person born to a person with some allegiance to another country is not a natural born citizen, then none of my children are natural-born. Hey neither am I! :(
But it's a fair definition. However, this means that no Hispanic Americans with Mexican parents can be considered natural born. What with the population of the States today, we had better get this definition once more defined to the nth degree RIGHT NOW.
The “issue’ was resolved. in simple engish. As it states.
The Obama supporters, trolls, and others un-American idiots have been saying ‘show us that congress used the term two parents with natural born citizen’, well there you have it.
In the congressional record, on file.
The resolution was proposed, debated, and "laid over," which is another way of saying "delayed." The blogger conveniently neglected to include anything about what happened after that delay... did the language actually get signed into law?
Well .... did it?
The Obama supporters, trolls, and others un-American idiots have been saying show us that congress used the term two parents with natural born citizen, well there you have it.
Even the resolution cited says more than that. I don't know that you're being deliberately dishonest -- but you're not telling the whole truth.
The point is the definition they used for a Natural Born Citizen: ‘as to exclude those from the privileges of natural-born citizens who are or shall be born of parents’
Resolved, That the Committee on the Judiciary be instructed to inquire into the expediency of so amending the law on the subject of naturalization, as to exclude those from the privileges of natural-born citizens who are or shall be born of parents who have been removed, or shall remove, from the United States, and have taken or shall take the oath of allegiance to the Government in which they so reside, until such person shall become naturalized like other foreigners, agreeably to the laws that now do or hereafter may exist on that subject.
Obot’s can’t spin this one away. That is what is fustrating them. Boo hoo....
You can find a nice elementary-level description of the process here.
So ... did this nice language ever become law? If not, it's just nice language, but legally meaningless.
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