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Obama's Hopey, Change Circus
Feed Your ADHD ^ | 2/12/2010 | sig94

Posted on 02/12/2010 3:00:02 PM PST by bloodmeridian

Upon his capture, the most beautiful words a terrorist can hear are the following:

“You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say can and will be used against you in a court of law. You have the right to an attorney. If you cannot afford an attorney, one will be provided for you. Do you understand the rights I have just read to you? With these rights in mind, do you wish to speak to me?”

If you read the above paragraph, you have just been "Mirandized." That is the Miranda Warning that law enforcement officers must recite to every criminal suspect they question -- if they want to introduce something as evidence in any criminal proceeding.

The ringleaders for Obama's Hopey Change Circus, Mssrs. Holder and Gibbs, maintain that the proper procedure for bringing terrorists to justice is arrest them and give them full Constitutional protection as afforded to every American citizen.

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TOPICS: Government; Military/Veterans; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: holder; miranda; obama; terrorism

1 posted on 02/12/2010 3:00:03 PM PST by bloodmeridian
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To: bloodmeridian
the proper procedure for bringing terrorists to justice is arrest them and give them full Constitutional protection as afforded to every American citizen.

Just a tweak: those are protections afforded to every human being physically on US soil, whether they are US citizens or not. Don't want foreign tourists or students to think that they're not entitled to due process when they visit here. The right to be read your rights, to a lawyer, to due process, and to a jury trial is not dependent upon US citizenship.

Now, if US citizens want to change that -- that is, deny these rights to non-citizens on US soil -- then they should write to their legislators.

2 posted on 02/12/2010 3:33:22 PM PST by kittykat77
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To: bloodmeridian

Easy solution,
Don’t capture terrorists.
Kill them immediately with prejudice.
End of problem.


3 posted on 02/12/2010 3:46:20 PM PST by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) Obammy is little more than a quota boy.)
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To: kittykat77

Honey, the fact that they are active combatants against the US and that they are NOT citizens seems lost on you.

In the old days if you were a citizen and you did this crap you were hanged as a TRAITOR.

These people are worse. They aren’t even citizens. Yeah they get due process, but they are NOT entitled to the rights of a US Citizen.

You are seriously on the wrong board.


4 posted on 02/14/2010 8:32:45 PM PST by mylife (Opinions: $1.00 Halfbaked: 50c)
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To: Joe Boucher

Bingo


5 posted on 02/14/2010 8:33:23 PM PST by mylife (Opinions: $1.00 Halfbaked: 50c)
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To: kittykat77

In case you haven’t noticed, our coddling them is not appeasing them. They still want us dead.


6 posted on 02/14/2010 8:36:21 PM PST by mylife (Opinions: $1.00 Halfbaked: 50c)
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To: mylife
Yeah they get due process, but they are NOT entitled to the rights of a US Citizen.

Correct me if I'm wrong: If you are an American citizen and go to England and are accused of committing a crime in London, you are charged under British law. Right?

If you are a British citizen and come to the United States and are accused of committing a crime in New York, you are charged under US law. Right?

Or am I wrong?

And that British citizen under arrest in New York has to be given his Miranda warning, has to be provided an attorney, and has the right to a jury trial. Right? (I also think he's entitled to contact the British embassy as well.)

Or am I wrong?

So what does this British citizen under arrest in New York NOT get that any US citizen arrested gets?

7 posted on 02/14/2010 9:10:27 PM PST by kittykat77
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To: kittykat77

Because they are Enemy Combatants.


8 posted on 02/14/2010 9:12:05 PM PST by mylife (Opinions: $1.00 Halfbaked: 50c)
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To: kittykat77

There is a huge difference between minor legal matters actively working on the downfall of a Sovereign Nation


9 posted on 02/14/2010 9:14:18 PM PST by mylife (Opinions: $1.00 Halfbaked: 50c)
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To: kittykat77

Go wage war on Saudi Arabia and see what that bears for you.


10 posted on 02/14/2010 9:15:28 PM PST by mylife (Opinions: $1.00 Halfbaked: 50c)
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To: kittykat77

You seem to forget that people with disdain for our system are not entitled to the privileges of our system.

I don’t need a lawyer to make that case.


11 posted on 02/14/2010 9:18:25 PM PST by mylife (Opinions: $1.00 Halfbaked: 50c)
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There is a huge difference between minor legal matters and actively working on the downfall of a Sovereign Nation.


12 posted on 02/14/2010 9:21:00 PM PST by mylife (Opinions: $1.00 Halfbaked: 50c)
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To: kittykat77

Do you think it is a high crime to use a neti pot on a terrorist?


13 posted on 02/14/2010 9:25:38 PM PST by mylife (Opinions: $1.00 Halfbaked: 50c)
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To: kittykat77

Did Thomas Jefferson afford those rights to the Barbary pirates?

I think not.


14 posted on 02/14/2010 9:33:27 PM PST by mylife (Opinions: $1.00 Halfbaked: 50c)
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To: kittykat77

First off, these clowns weren’t even detained in the US for the most part. KSM was detained in Pakistan.

They are enemy combatants!


15 posted on 02/14/2010 9:35:47 PM PST by mylife (Opinions: $1.00 Halfbaked: 50c)
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To: kittykat77

Why is KSM being afforded miranda rights? Why is the panty bomber?


16 posted on 02/14/2010 9:41:35 PM PST by mylife (Opinions: $1.00 Halfbaked: 50c)
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so the law is that if they “touch base” they get all the rule of our law.

Al Queda is laughing their ass off!


17 posted on 02/14/2010 9:46:40 PM PST by mylife (Opinions: $1.00 Halfbaked: 50c)
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To: kittykat77

By your logic, legally the moment a Barbary pirate jumped a ship he would be on sovereign territory and afforded the rights of a citizen.


18 posted on 02/14/2010 9:58:40 PM PST by mylife (Opinions: $1.00 Halfbaked: 50c)
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To: mylife
Because they are enemy combatants

Please go back and read my first post (post #2). I was clarifying something stated in the original post from Feed Your ADHD. The original post implied that only US citizens have US Constitutional rights on US soil, which is incorrect. Foreign citizens arrested in the US on criminal charges are afforded the same rights as US citizens. I was not talking about enemy combatants.

The definition of enemy combatants, at least at it applies to Gitmo detainees, is in legal limbo, as is the military tribunal commission for detainees following several Supreme Court rulings.

19 posted on 02/15/2010 3:04:52 PM PST by kittykat77
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