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To: EnderWiggins
You request for citations is ironic, because you are mistaken. No passages from de Vattel were ever "read aloud" during the debates.

Cite your proof of that statement.
545 posted on 02/14/2010 11:11:55 AM PST by Danae (Don't like our Constitution? Try living in a country with out one.)
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To: Danae; EnderWiggins
Cite your proof of that statement.

He's partly right. No quote from Vattel was submitted in any discussion on natural-born citizenship.

Madison Minutes of the Constitutional Convention

548 posted on 02/14/2010 11:19:21 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Danae
LOL.... once again you display the most transcendent non-familiarity with the most basic rules of argument and debate. The burden of proof is on the affirmative assertion, not the negative.

I have read the debates regarding the citizenship requirements for both President (that was easy, because there was none) and the Congress (actually rather extensive). I have also read the later debates regarding the citizenship clause of the 14th Amendment. De Vattel was never mentioned once in any of them.

I cannot (by definition) prove that to you. You have to go look and prove it to yourself.

If I am wrong, then it should be a trivial issue for you to show us. You are welcome to add yourself to the long list of Birthers here who are unable to demonstrate a single example of a single framer ever mentioning de Vattel and citizenship in the same breath.
553 posted on 02/14/2010 11:52:18 AM PST by EnderWiggins
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