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New Climategate Shocker: Even the CRU Thought the Climate Change Hockey Stick Was Bogus
The Lid/UK Guardian ^ | 2/9/2010 | The Lid

Posted on 02/09/2010 10:50:47 AM PST by Shellybenoit

The term "hockey stick" was coined by the head of National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration's (NOAA) Geophysical Fluid Dynamics Laboratory, Jerry Mahlman, to describe the pattern of historical temperatures in the northern hemisphere (it kind of looks like a hockey stick on its side). The chart, created by Dr. Michael Mann (now at Penn State University) shows relatively stable temperatures until around 100 year ago when we see a spike up. It is one of the key pieces of information used to prove that global warming is about to destroy the world.

To create most of the chart, climate change scientists had to use natural sources (as opposed to someone taking the temperature with a thermometer). Tree rings and ice core samples were used to measure the temperature levels, which are standard procedure. What isn't standard procedure is the fact that the tree samples and temperatures were selected to skew the study.

This Chart became the center of the IPCC's argument that man-made global warming was real. Memo's released as part of the Climategate scandal reveals that even the CRU at the University of East Anglia , had serious problems with the Hockey Stick chart, but it was pushed through by the chart's creator Dr. Mann.

(Excerpt) Read more at yidwithlid.blogspot.com ...


TOPICS: Government; Politics; Science; Weather
KEYWORDS: climategate; drmann; globalwarming; globalwarminghoax; hockeystickchart; ipcc

1 posted on 02/09/2010 10:50:47 AM PST by Shellybenoit
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To: Shellybenoit

I’m sorry, but how is this news?

We’re not going to report your insane right wing hate speech.

-your friends in the American Media


2 posted on 02/09/2010 10:53:51 AM PST by Tzimisce (No thanks. We have enough government already. - The Tick)
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To: Shellybenoit

And Michael Mann states that it’s a trtavesty that they can’t account for the recent global cooling in any of their models.

An admission that:

1.It is cooling, not warming.

2.Their models are wrong

I also not none of his cohorts, Phil Jones, Keith Briffa debated it, it was common knowledge among them.


3 posted on 02/09/2010 10:56:10 AM PST by Brett66 (Where government advances, and it advances relentlessly , freedom is imperiled -Janice Rogers Brown)
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To: Shellybenoit
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A very bitter former Senator and Vice President Al Gore seen here en-route back to prison after a federal appeals court refused to review his 20 year sentence for his lead role as spokesperson in the “Climategate” fraud conspiracy.

The same court recently rejected the appeals of the lengthy sentences of the 137 alleged UN “scientists” – Gore’s co-conspirators – for falsifying data supporting so-called Cap and Trade legislation that trial testimony disclosed would have virtually destroyed what remained of the U.S. economy while unjustly enriching Gore and a cabal of insiders.


4 posted on 02/09/2010 10:56:30 AM PST by Dick Bachert (DIPLOMACY: THE ABILITY TO SAY "NICE DOGGY" WHILE GROPING FOR A LARGE ROCK.)
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To: Shellybenoit

Every sales manager faced with putting a sales forecast together after a rough start is familiar with the “hockey stick chart”. And he knows enough not to try to bet his job on it.


5 posted on 02/09/2010 10:59:36 AM PST by bigbob
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To: Dick Bachert

ah...

Dare to dream.


6 posted on 02/09/2010 11:05:10 AM PST by getitright (If you call this HOPE, can we give despair a shot?)
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To: Brett66
And Michael Mann states that it’s a trtavesty ...

It was Kevin Trenberth at NCAR who actually said that in one of the e-mails, but your point is, nontheless, quite valid.

7 posted on 02/09/2010 11:16:11 AM PST by sima_yi ( Reporting live from the People's Republic of Boulder)
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To: Brett66

“And Michael Mann states that it’s a trtavesty that they can’t account for the recent global cooling in any of their models.”

It’s not Mann. It’s Trenbleth.


8 posted on 02/09/2010 11:25:33 AM PST by ModelBreaker
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To: sima_yi; ModelBreaker

Ok, thanks. I’ll update my “usual suspects” list. :)


9 posted on 02/09/2010 11:29:30 AM PST by Brett66 (Where government advances, and it advances relentlessly , freedom is imperiled -Janice Rogers Brown)
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To: Brett66

One thing I learned working on my PhD dissertation,the computer model must match real world results or you can’t submit it to your committee.

When it finally did, I got the degree.


10 posted on 02/09/2010 11:51:16 AM PST by chesley (Lib arguments are neither factual, logical, rational, nor reasonable. They are, however, creative.)
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To: Brett66

“Ok, thanks. I’ll update my “usual suspects” list. :)”

Search for “travesty” in an archive of the climate gate emails and then look in that vicinity. Trenbleth (sp?) has some very interesting things to say about the quality of their climate models, what climate researchers understand and what they don’t understand.


11 posted on 02/09/2010 11:53:42 AM PST by ModelBreaker
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